How can I know if two stars came from the same cluster?

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To determine if two stars originated from the same open cluster, one can analyze their distances from Earth, the distance between them, and their spectral types, particularly if they share the same classification, such as B0. The discussion highlights that if three B0 stars are relatively close and in the main sequence phase, they may indeed come from the same cluster. Additionally, there is interest in calculating the absolute luminosity of Betelgeuse, with references to Henrietta Swan Levitt's diagrams and a specific paper suggesting an absolute magnitude of -5.85 for the star. The conversation emphasizes the need for reliable resources to further understand these astrophysical concepts. Overall, the thread serves as a platform for sharing knowledge on stellar classification and luminosity measurement.
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Hi everybody; I was wondering if there is a way of knowing if two stars came from the same open cluster knowing the distance fron these to the earth, the distance between them and their spectral types.

If someone can pont me to a book or webpage where I can learm about that, it would be very helpfull.

It's for an exercice in which I am asked about the possibility that the three stars from Orion's belt came from the same cluster since all sahre type B0.

Thanks for reading.
 
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This may answer some of your questions:

http://eaae-astronomy.org/WG3-SS/WorkShops/Cluster.html
 
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Indeed it does; so if I have three relatively close B0 stars I can assume that they might come from the same cluster since all of them are in the main phase?

Another thing I can't find online is how to measure the absolute luminosity of a variable star; in this case I am tallking about Betelgeuse; the only information I have is that it's period if of six years an that it's relative visibility changes between 0.4 and 0.6. I have found online sone diagrams made by Henrietta Swan Levitt, but I can't find an equation which can give me the absolute magnitude.
 
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Indeed it does; so if I have three relatively close B0 stars I can assume that they might come from the same cluster since all of them are in the main phase?

Another thing I can't find online is how to measure the absolute luminosity of a variable star; in this case I am tallking about Betelgeuse; the only information I have is that it's period if of six years an that it's relative visibility changes between 0.4 and 0.6. I have found online sone diagrams made by Henrietta Swan Levitt, but I can't find an equation which can give me the absolute magnitude.

Apparently you are not the only one having difficulty determining the absolute magnitude of Betelgeuse. The following paper explains in why Mv = -5.85 is the most plausible explanation for Betelgeuse's absolute magnitude.

A New VLA-Hipparcos Distance to Betelgeuse and its Implications - The Astronomical Journal, Volume 135, Number 4 (2008) (free issue)
 
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Nice, this helps me. Thanks.
 
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