How Can I Put Out a Fire in My Electrical Panel?

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Fire is a chemical reaction requiring three elements: oxygen, fuel, and heat, and removing any of these elements can extinguish a fire. The discussion highlights that fire is essentially ionized gas, and understanding its nature helps in firefighting. For electrical fires, using compressed CO2 gas is recommended as a firefighting method. The conversation also delves into the science of flames, explaining the difference in heat between blue and red flames based on photon energy. Overall, the key to extinguishing a fire lies in disrupting its sustaining elements.
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I have searched for the answer of this question for a long time... but did not get a satisfactory answer.

what is fire? what is it made of?
 
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Fire is a chemical reaction which creates a burst of heat and light. This is called ignition point, and what we see is a flame. When heat changes the state or shape of an objects, we call this combustion.
There are three main elements which are required to ignite a flame. Without any of these three elements, it is not possible to start a fire. These three elements are: Oxygen, Fuel and Heat.
 
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castaway said:
Without any of these three elements, it is not possible to start or even maintain a fire. These three elements are: Oxygen, Fuel and Heat.

Rule number 1 of firefighting: Remove any of the three elements, and you've put out the fire.
 
aberrated said:
I have searched for the answer of this question for a long time... but did not get a satisfactory answer.

what is fire? what is it made of?

The simplest explanation of it is that it is ionized gas.

Zz.
 
Well , what is the way to fight the fire caused by electric shock circuit?
 
castaway said:
Well , what is the way to fight the fire caused by electric shock circuit?
With compressed CO2 gas.
 
thanks a lot :D
 
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Fire is a plasma - which is merely another way of saying what Zz said.
 
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Fire is caused by the oxidation of molecular bonds and in some materials like wood the energy released by oxidation is sufficient to create a runaway chain reaction called combustion

The flame of a fire is a more interesting question to think about. We know blue flames are hotter than red flames. This is because on the Electomagnetic spectrum, the blue photons have a greater energy than the red photons. When we burned the wood, we oxidized its bonds and its electrons became excited, when these electrons fall back down to their normal dexcited state, they emit a photon. This photon has a certain energy that is equal to the size of the electron's 'fall', so the bigger the fall, the more energetic the photon becomes.

Heat is another form of 'light' or more correctly speaking Electromagnetic Radiation. It is light that is slightly out of our range of vision, just below the red end of the visual spectrum. If you don't believe me, turn on your stove grill and notice that when it reaches a certain heat, it starts glowing red. If stoves could get even hotter, the grill would start looking bluish. Heat, also called Infrared Radiation, is produced when atoms or molecules jitter sideways back and forth in an excited vibratory manner.

Electrons can orbit individual atoms, or they can orbit molecules. If they are bombarded with radiation energy (like they are when you light a piece of wood on fire) the electrons jump up and fall down, jump up and fall down. Some electrons even escape their orbits in a process called ionization. A collection of these ionized electrons is called a plasma. The flame of a lighter is a plasma of these ionized electrons.

One metaphor for how fire is sustained by a chain reaction goes like this...
Imagine you are standing in the center of a room made of steel. You have a lighter in your hand. When you flick your lighter on it shoots photons outwards in every possible direction. Think of these photons as bullets that hit the steel walls, break into fragments and richochet all around the room. If we turn the lighter off now, we'd expect that since there are no more bullets being fired at the walls, that the richochets would die down and lose energy and the room would become silent. But, if the walls, when struck by a bullet, give up some of the energy holding them together, the ricochets continue on and on until there is no wall left. Without fuel there can be no fire.
 
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I will say that fire is really much an ionised gas that gives off heat and light. It is neither of the 3 common states. I think it lies more towards the plasma region.
 
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aberrated said:
thanks a lot :D
Initial post: 10:04AM
Answer to question: 4:58PM.

I'm picturing aberrated sitting at his computer for 7 hours while his electrical panel is in flames, thinking "come on come on! How do I put this out!" :biggrin: :biggrin:
 

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