How Can the Minimum Distance x for Load P on a Movable Bracket Be Determined?

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The discussion focuses on determining the minimum distance x for a load P on a movable bracket attached to a 50-mm-diameter pipe, considering a static friction coefficient of 0.30. Participants express difficulty in solving the equilibrium equations due to multiple unknowns and the need to account for friction forces acting at two points on the pipe. It is clarified that the answer must be expressed in terms of P, and the correct answer is identified as option B, 0.1667 m. The importance of accurately constructing the free body diagram (FBD) is emphasized, as it significantly aids in solving the problem. Overall, understanding the relationship between forces and the correct application of equations is crucial for finding the solution.
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Homework Statement


The movable bracket shown may be placed at any height on the 50-mm-diameter pipe. If the coefficient of static friction between the pipe and bracket is 0.30, determine the minimum distance x at which the load P can be supported. Assume that the bracket is weightless.
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Homework Equations


Sum of Forces and Moments = 0 for equilibrium
F_f = uN

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I got stuck after getting the equilibrium equations. Too many variables and not enough equations.
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Your FBD is oversimplified. The friction force acts at points A and B. The 50 mm diameter of the pipe must be accounted for. The friction force at A is acting on the left side of the pipe, and at B on the right side of the pipe. Also, the normal force N is related to the horizontal force components.
 
Is this what you are talking about?
With these equations I still have 4 unknowns and 3 equations
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A numnerical answer is not possible since the loading P is not known. Write your answer in terms of P.
 
There are 5 choices for the answer and they are all numerical answers
A. 0.025 m
B. 0.1667 m
C. 0.1920 m
D. 0.200 m
E. 0.217 m

According to the key, the answer is B
 
I hate it when that happens...

The answer key is correct. You have the equations that you need, except that x is measured from the centerline of the pipe, and so in eqn 3, the term on the left in parenthesis should be (x + 0.025).

Sub for NA in eqn 2 from eqn 1. Sub from that result for P into eqn 3. NB will cancel out; solve for x and you should get answer B.
 
Thank you very much.
I think the FBD part was the hardest part of the question. But once that is in place, everything falls together really well. I tend to have trouble with the FBD part and trying to think about how each force goes.
 
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