How Can We Divide Lamé Coefficients When Some Are Zero?

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The discussion revolves around the division of Lamé coefficients in mathematical expressions, particularly in the context of spherical coordinates. Participants explore the implications of having zero values among these coefficients and the validity of certain mathematical manipulations involving them.

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  • Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the validity of dividing Lamé coefficients when some may be zero, seeking clarification on the mathematical reasoning behind such operations.
  • Another participant suggests that the manipulation of the fraction is mathematically sound as long as the denominator is not zero, implying that the operation is valid except at specific points.
  • A third participant notes that the problem's complexity has been adjusted and emphasizes that the operation involves multiplying by one, which is a common mathematical practice.
  • A later reply discusses the implications of dividing functions, stating that it is permissible as long as the denominator is not identically zero, and mentions the breakdown of the coordinate system at those points.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the division of Lamé coefficients when some are zero. There is no consensus on the implications of this division, and multiple viewpoints remain regarding the mathematical validity and the underlying concepts.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight that dividing by zero leads to undefined behavior, and the discussion touches on the breakdown of the coordinate system at points where coefficients are zero, suggesting a need for alternative coordinate systems in such cases.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those studying mathematical physics, particularly in the context of coordinate systems and the application of Lamé coefficients in various problems.

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Sometimes in calculations authors uses
\frac{1}{h_1h_2}=\frac{h_3}{h_1h_2h_3}
where ##h_i, i=1,2,3## are Lame coefficients. For instance in spherical coordinates ##h_r=1##, ##h_{\theta}=r##, ##h_{\varphi}=r\sin \theta##. I am not sure how we can divide so easily Lame coefficients when some on them obviously can be zero for certain values of parameters. Can someone give me some explanation? Thanks a lot in advance.
 
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I have no background of the physics there but the formula seems multiplying the same number to denominator and numerator, so obviously right except the number is zero.
 
Changed problem level from A to B. The underlying concept of Lame coefficients might be advanced, but in the posted problem all that was done was to multiply a fraction by 1 in the form of ##h_3## over itself.
 
LagrangeEuler said:
I am not sure how we can divide so easily Lame coefficients when some on them obviously can be zero for certain values of parameters. Can someone give me some explanation? Thanks a lot in advance.

You can divide a function by another function provided that the denominator is not identically zero; this reduces the domain by excluding points where the denominator is zero. In the context of Lame coefficients these are points where the coordinate system breaks down, with a single point being referred to by multiple distinct coordinate tuples. If you need to analyze something at these points, the answer is to use a different coordinate system.
 

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