How Can You Simplify the Calculation of a Complex Number Raised to a Power?

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The discussion revolves around simplifying the calculation of a complex number raised to a power, specifically the expression z = (1 + (√3 / 2) + i/2)^24. Participants explore various methods and approaches to tackle this problem within the context of complex numbers.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss calculating the modulus and argument of the complex number, with some using De Moivre's theorem. Others suggest alternative methods such as squaring or cubing the expression to simplify the calculations. There are questions about the accuracy of determining the angle and the representation of the complex number in the form x + iy.

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The discussion is active, with multiple participants offering insights and suggestions. Some participants are questioning the clarity of the original problem setup, while others are exploring different mathematical approaches. There is no explicit consensus, but several productive lines of reasoning are being examined.

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Participants note the importance of accurately determining the angle and express concerns about the clarity of the problem's representation. There is also a reminder about adhering to homework posting guidelines.

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Hi
I was hoping some of you would give me a clue on how to solve this complex number task.
z = (1 +(√3 /2) + i/2)^24 → x=(1 +(√3 /2), y= 1/2
I think there must be some nice looking way to solve it.
My way was to calculate |z| which was equal to [√(3+2√3)]/2 → cosθ = x/|z|, sinθ= y/|z|
After using De Moivre's formula I got very awful result which was:
z = |z|^24 * (cos(24*θ) + i sin(24*θ))
Can you think of any better looking way to solve this ?
 
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TheColector said:
Hi
I was hoping some of you would give me a clue on how to solve this complex number task.
z = (1 +(√3 /2) + i/2)^24 → x=(1 +(√3 /2), y= 1/2
I think there must be some nice looking way to solve it.
My way was to calculate |z| which was equal to [√(3+2√3)]/2 → cosθ = x/|z|, sinθ= y/|z|
After using De Moivre's formula I got very awful result which was:
z = |z|^24 * (cos(24*θ) + i sin(24*θ))
Can you think of any better looking way to solve this ?
Have you tried simply squaring three times and cubing once?
 
TheColector said:
Hi
I was hoping some of you would give me a clue on how to solve this complex number task.
z = (1 +(√3 /2) + i/2)^24 → x=(1 +(√3 /2), y= 1/2
I think there must be some nice looking way to solve it.
My way was to calculate |z| which was equal to [√(3+2√3)]/2 → cosθ = x/|z|, sinθ= y/|z|
After using De Moivre's formula I got very awful result which was:
z = |z|^24 * (cos(24*θ) + i sin(24*θ))
Can you think of any better looking way to solve this ?

Work hard at determining ##\theta## as accurately as you can, because the result may surprise you. (Don't just give one or two decimal places; use as many places as is practical, or---even better----try for an "analytic", closed-form expression.)
 
TheColector said:
Hi
I was hoping some of you would give me a clue on how to solve this complex number task.
z = (1 +(√3 /2) + i/2)^24 → x=(1 +(√3 /2), y= 1/2
It's not clear to me what you're trying to do.
It appears that you want to write z in the form of x + iy. If so, x and y would not be as you show them above.
TheColector said:
I think there must be some nice looking way to solve it.
My way was to calculate |z| which was equal to [√(3+2√3)]/2 → cosθ = x/|z|, sinθ= y/|z|
After using De Moivre's formula I got very awful result which was:
z = |z|^24 * (cos(24*θ) + i sin(24*θ))
Can you think of any better looking way to solve this ?
In future posts, don't delete the homework template. Its use is required.
 
You can gain a lot of insight into the geometry by either squaring or cubing the expression then comparing the real and imaginary parts.
 
Sorry about deleting it. I won't do so in the future. What I meant with this → was to show the represenstative form of x and iy as a part of "z"
 
Better yet, consider the quantity that you raise to the 24th power, ##z_1=\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}+\frac{1}{2}i##. Can you find angle ##\varphi## such that ##z_1=e^{i \varphi}## ? Then raise to the 24th power.
 
kuruman said:
Better yet, consider the quantity that you raise to the 24th power, ##z_1=\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}+\frac{1}{2}i##. Can you find angle ##\varphi## such that ##z_1=e^{i \varphi}## ? Then raise to the 24th power.
Isn't that effectively what was tried in post #1? And it is 1+½√3+½i.
Looks like TheColector had trouble finding the angle. This is a lot easier after a single squaring or cubing.
 
haruspex said:
And it is 1+½√3+½i.
Sorry, I misread the parentheses. This makes the problem more interesting.
$$1+\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}+ \frac{1}{2}i=e^{2i\pi}+e^{i\pi/6}$$
Can you write this as the product of two terms?

(Edited to give less away)
 
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