How Can You Solve Challenging Mechanics Problems?

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The discussion revolves around solving challenging mechanics problems, specifically a question about a boy swimming in a current. One participant is struggling with the second part of a question and has not shown their work, which is required for effective assistance. They calculated the time to reach a buoy as 120 seconds but later arrived at an incorrect time of 63.25 seconds using Pythagorean principles. Another participant emphasizes that the boy's swimming speed relative to the water cannot exceed 3 m/s, which is crucial for solving the problem accurately. The conversation highlights the importance of demonstrating attempts and understanding mechanics concepts for effective problem-solving.
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Can you help me with some of these questions? I can't do the second part of Q1!
 

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magicuniverse,

This is the second thread you've started where you haven't shown any work. Can I remind you that you are required to show the you have attempted any homework before posting as well as detailing any thoughts you have on your problem.

"I have no idea!" doesn't count as detailing your thoughts.
 
Well its not homework for a start. This is revision for an exam so by explaining/hinting at a method you arnt going to be put me at an unfair advantge.
 
magicuniverse said:
Well its not homework for a start. This is revision for an exam so by explaining/hinting at a method you arnt going to be put me at an unfair advantge.
Okay, so what have you done so far in question (1)?
 
I have worked out the time to be 120s with the use of a diagram and orking out resultsnt vectors. Tried doing the second part but got it wrong, my answer was massively out so I though that I must be doing it worng and wanted to know how.
 
magicuniverse said:
I have worked out the time to be 120s with the use of a diagram and orking out resultsnt vectors. Tried doing the second part but got it wrong, my answer was massively out so I though that I must be doing it worng and wanted to know how.
May i see your attempt?
 
Hootenanny said:
May i see your attempt?

Yer but you can't see my diagram as I can't get it on here.

Basically know that the currrent will drag the bo down, but the boy can swim upwards at 1m/s so if he can swim to the west at 3 m/s his velocity will be root(10) (from pythagorus) we then divide the distance 200m by root10. This comes out with 63.25s rather than the required 89.4s.
 
magicuniverse said:
Yer but you can't see my diagram as I can't get it on here.

Basically know that the currrent will drag the bo down, but the boy can swim upwards at 1m/s so if he can swim to the west at 3 m/s his velocity will be root(10) (from pythagorus) we then divide the distance 200m by root10. This comes out with 63.25s rather than the required 89.4s.
But surely if he swims at a speed of \sqrt{10} m/s, that would mean that he is swimming at an angle of \tan^{-1}(1/3) \approx 18^o above due west and would therefore miss the buoy?

In addition, the the boy's maximum speed relative to the water is 3 m/s.
 
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I figured that the current was pulling him down? Il have alook at it, thanks.
 
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magicuniverse said:
I figured that the current was pulling him down? Il have alook at it, thanks.
Note my second point above, the boy's total speed cannot exceed 3 m/s
 
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Thanks I have to got the answer to 200/root(5), your time is appretiated. Any help with question 2 would be appretiated now thanks.
 
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magicuniverse said:
Thanks I have to got the answer to 200/root(5), your time is appretiated.
Good, and no problem :smile:
magicuniverse said:
Any help with question 2 would be appretiated now thanks.
What have you attempted thus far?
 
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