How did they come up with this completed reaction

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The completed reaction of sodium carbonate (Na2CO3) with hydrochloric acid (HCl) produces sodium chloride (NaCl), water (H2O), and carbon dioxide (CO2). The initial confusion arises from balancing the equation, where the correct stoichiometry requires two moles of HCl to react with one mole of Na2CO3. The discussion highlights that while bicarbonate (HCO3) can form during the reaction, it ultimately decomposes to yield water and carbon dioxide without producing hydronium ions (H3O+). The key point is that the reaction proceeds through various equilibria, leading to the net equation of H2CO3 decomposing directly to H2O and CO2. Understanding these equilibria clarifies why H3O+ is not present in the final products.
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This is what the completed reaction looks like
Na2CO3 + 2HCl ⇔ 2NaCl + H2O + CO2

My question is how did they get the products in the above reaction.

Here is my attempt, but I don't see how to get it like in the above reaction
Na2CO3 + HCl ⇔ NaCl + HCO3

The HCO3 breaks down as follows:

HCO3 + H2O ⇔ H3O+ + CO2

So my question is how did they only get H2O + CO2 in the top reaction without the hydronium H3O+ ??

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lechatelier said:
Here is my attempt, but I don't see how to get it like in the above reaction
Na2CO3 + HCl ⇔ NaCl + HCO3

There is a Na missing.

lechatelier said:
The HCO3 breaks down as follows:

HCO3 + H2O ⇔ H3O+ + CO2

Where does the charge comes from?
 
lechatelier said:
So my question is how did they only get H2O + CO2 in the top reaction without the hydronium H3O+ ??

Apart from what DrS wrote, solution of HCl contains plenty of H+.
 
Well, the first equation you gave us is balanced. The reactants and products both contain:

3 O
2 Na
2 Cl
2 H
1 C

However, your second equation is missing a coefficient in front of one of the reactants. You wrote: Na2CO3 + HCl ⇔ NaCl + HCO3. This is not balanced properly, because on the reactant side you have 2 Na, and on the product side you only account for 1 Na. If you add a two in front of the HCl in the second equation, you get the correct products for the completed reaction of:

Na2CO3 + 2HCl ⇔ 2NaCl + H2O + CO2.
 
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Heavymetal:

It's not a question about balancing!

I could balance the equation no problem. The question is why the reaction doesn't go this route:

Na2CO3 + 2HCl ⇔ 2NaCl + H2CO3

The H2CO3 breaks down as follows:

H2CO3+ H2O ⇔ H3O+ + HCO3

The HCO3 breaks down as follows:

HCO3+ H2O ⇔ H3O+ + CO3

So I got H3O+ + CO3 but why is it that the correct reaction has H2O + CO2 (at the top, at the beginning of this post) without the hydronium ion H3O+ and CO3 ??
 
DrStupid said:
There is a Na missing.



Where does the charge comes from?

Are you serious in asking me where the +ive charge on a hydronium ion came from?
 
I believe it goes:

H2CO3 + 2H2O ⇔ HCO3- + "H3O+" + H2O
HCO3- + "H3O+" + H2O ⇔ CO32- + 2"H3O+"
CO32- + 2"H3O+" ⇔ 3H2O + CO2

I say "H3O+" because it doesn't actually take shape of the hydronium ion here. So if you cancel out the 2 H2O from the beginning, and the 2 out of the 3 in the end, you get a net equation that looks like:

H2CO3 ⇔ H2O + CO2

However, it probably looks more like this:

H2CO3 ⇔ HCO3- + H+(aq)
HCO3- + H+(aq) ⇔ CO32- + 2H+(aq)
CO32- + 2H+(aq) ⇔ H2O + CO2
 
HeavyMetal said:
you get a net equation that looks like:

H2CO3 ⇔ H2O + CO2

That's the main equation here, everything else is just an alternative take on the several equilibria present in the solution.
 
lechatelier said:
Are you serious in asking me where the +ive charge on a hydronium ion came from?

Yes, I do. The net quantity of electric charge must not change.
 
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