How do I calculate the bending energy for a cross-linked beam network?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the bending energy for a cross-linked network of beam-like structures under extensional and shear strains. Participants explore the necessary equations and boundary conditions required for modeling the bending energy in a 3D context, particularly focusing on the Bernoulli beam theory and the implications of cross-link angles on force calculations.

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Main Points Raised

  • The original poster (OP) describes the need to calculate bending energy in addition to extensional energy, referencing the bending moment and the Bernoulli equation.
  • The OP seeks clarification on how to determine the force at cross-links based on changes in angles between beams, questioning if it can be modeled as a function of angle difference and a spring constant.
  • The OP expresses uncertainty about the appropriate boundary conditions for the Bernoulli equation, given that the ends of the beams are not clamped but can move.
  • jjyoung inquires about the coplanarity of the beam network and suggests that the transverse applied load is zero, indicating the need for finite element analysis to determine node displacements and boundary conditions.
  • The OP confirms that the calculation is in 3D and considers the implications for boundary conditions, referencing the need for conditions related to both displacement and rotation.
  • Another participant notes that there will be six boundary conditions per node and twelve for each beam, suggesting a more complex boundary condition setup than initially considered by the OP.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the specific calculations for forces at cross-links or the exact boundary conditions required for the Bernoulli equation, indicating multiple competing views and unresolved questions regarding the modeling approach.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential limitations in the OP's understanding of boundary conditions and the complexity of the 3D network, which may affect the accuracy of the bending energy calculations. The reliance on finite element analysis is suggested but not elaborated upon.

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Hello, I'm working on a project involving a cross-linked network of beam-like objects. We take these networks and apply extensional and shear strains to it, then apply an energy minimization procedure to find the optimal positions for all the cross-links in the new state. Therefore I have to calculate the total energy of the system. Right now, my computation includes only extensional/compression energy so kx^2/2, but I need to add bending energy. And I'm stuck here. I know my beams are supposed to be Bernoulli beams. The bending energy (as I understand it) is the bending moment:
M = EI *(u'') (second derivative of the deflection). In order to compure this I need the defection. To get this, I need to solve the Bernoulli equation:
EI*(u'''') = w where u'''' is the fourth order deriv of deflection and w is the force.
I'm not sure what my "force" should be. Basically at a crosslink, the two beams are attached together at a certain angle. If after the whole network has moved, this angle has changed between the two beams, then a force has been imposed there because the beams are no longer at their optimal angle.

So: 1. How do I calculate this force? is it just as simple as the difference in the angle times a spring constant? or something like this

2. Once I have the force, I have to solve the Bernoulli equation to get the deflection, so being a fourth order equation I need four boundary conditions. 2 at each end of the beam, so in this situation these wouldn't be "clamped" right? Because technically they can move, even though its not very energetically favorable for them to do so. If it's not clamped, then any suggestions on what the boundary conditions should be in this situation? Because the ends are certainly not free either...

Any suggestions would be most helpful. If this is the incorrect section to post this under, I apologize!
 
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jjyoung: Is your beam network coplanar, with all displacements coplanar? Or is this a 3-D network? The transverse applied load w on each beam is zero. The end boundary conditions (BCs) of each beam depend on the response of the entire network. Therefore, you will need to run a finite element analysis program to obtain the translational and rotational displacements of each node. Then you will have the end BCs for each beam.
 
It is a 3D calculation. So these beams can translate and rotate in 3D.

So you are saying my Bernoulli equation should be EI*u'''' = 0, and I should be able to get boundary conditions like u and u' for the two ends of each beam, which will give me the four conditions to solve for u

thank you for the advice!
 
Yes, but there will be six boundary conditions per node, twelve for each beam.
 

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