How do I choose the area of integration?

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The discussion revolves around determining the appropriate area of integration for a double integral, specifically focusing on the setup and limits of integration based on a given sketch of the region.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss how to identify the correct area of integration and the implications of choosing different limits for x and y. Questions arise about the validity of the shaded area and whether it represents the entire region required for integration. There is also a consideration of whether the limits should be determined after establishing the area to integrate under.

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Participants are actively exploring the problem, with some providing guidance on how to visualize the limits of integration. There is recognition of the need to clarify the shaded area and its relation to the limits, but no consensus has been reached regarding the correct approach or area.

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There are mentions of specific limits for integration, such as y going from sqrt(x) to 1 and x from 0 to 1, but participants express uncertainty about the correctness of the shaded region and its implications for the integration process.

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Homework Statement



Consider the integral shown in the sketch. Sketch the region of integration and express the integral with the reverse order of integration and evaluate it leaving your answer in surd form

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I shaded the area of integration but I am not sure whether it is the right area. How do I know which area of integration to use? And secondly, when you choose your x limits, do you draw a horizontal line that passes through the y- axis and through the sketched functions? Likewise when you choose your y limits, do you draw a vertical line that passes through the x-axis and through the sketched functions? Also just wondering whether the shaded area is only half of the region to integrate? Maybe I could only integrate that half area and double the answer?
 

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I think the double integral is

[tex]\int^1_0\,\int^1_{\sqrt{x}}\,\sqrt{1+y^3}\,dy dx[/tex]
 
Ok,

draw a straight line parallel to y-axis that goes through your currently shaded region.

now, they are saying that y limits from going from sqrt(x) to 1

so, pick the starting point on the vertical line and the ending point.\
This would help you pick the right area.

Your thing is wrong!
 
Astronuc, yea that is the right integral. But now, i don't know whether my shaded region is the right one?
 
Oh and rootX, don't u find out the limits after you know which area to integrate under?
 
math_04 said:
Oh and rootX, don't u find out the limits after you know which area to integrate under?

Limits are given. Those dy goes from sqrt(x) to 1 and dx from 0 to 1
 
More correctly, y goes from sqrt(x) to 1 and x goes from 0 to 1.

Now, the two graphs, y= sqrt(x) (or x= y^2) and x= 1 intersect at (0,0) and (1,1).

If you integrate with respect to x first and then y, the limits of integration on y must be numbers. What values does y go between? In other words, what are the smallest and largest values of y? Those are the limits of integration on y.

Now, for each y (draw a horizontal line on your graph), what values of y does x lie between (the lower and upper limits for x may be functions of y).
 

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