How Do I Convert This Integral's Domain to Polar Coordinates?

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Alright, so I'm having a problem converting to polar co-ordinates
Never been confused by polar before :(I'm trying to convert the domain of an integral to polar co-ordinates

The domain would be something like

D:{(x,y)| 1<x<2 , 0<y<(2x-x2) 1/2}

First I recognize that y=(2x-x2) 1/2 is the equation for a circle of radius shifted 1 unit to the right

so

y2 + (x-1)2 = 1

and it is the domain from x = 1 to x =2 (So the top right quadrant of the circle)

[PLAIN]http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/4919/graphua.png

Graphically I can deduce that since x = y = 1 at the peak, then cos\vartheta = sqrt(2) :. \vartheta = \frac{\pi}{4}

and it looks like r goes from 0 to 2cos\vartheta //Which I am told is wrong

This leads me to two questions:
1) How would I find r graphically here?
2) Is it possible to convert to polar algebraically?

I tried to convert the inequalities seperately but that led me to
D:{(r,\vartheta)| \frac{\pi}{4} < \vartheta < 0, 0 < r < 2cos\vartheta}

//My method is below
0<y<(2x-x2)1/2
02 < y2 < 2x - x2
0 < y2 + x2 < 2x
0 < r2 < 2rcos\vartheta[\tex]<br /> 0/r &lt; r &lt; 2cos\vartheta<br /> <br /> 1 &lt; x &lt; 2<br /> 1 &lt; rcos\vartheta &lt; 2<br /> r has a maximum value of 2cos\vartheta <br /> 1 &lt; 2 cos<sup>2</sup>\vartheta &lt; 2<br /> 1/2 &lt; cos<sup>2</sup>\vartheta &lt; 1<br /> 1/sqrt(2) &lt; cos\vartheta &lt; 1<br /> \frac{\pi}{4} &lt; \vartheta &lt; 0
 
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frggr said:
Alright, so I'm having a problem converting to polar co-ordinates
Never been confused by polar before :(


I'm trying to convert the domain of an integral to polar co-ordinates

The domain would be something like

D:{(x,y)| 1<x<2 , 0<y<(2x-x2) 1/2}

First I recognize that y=(2x-x2) 1/2 is the equation for a circle of radius shifted 1 unit to the right

so

y2 + (x-1)2 = 1

and it is the domain from x = 1 to x =2 (So the top right quadrant of the circle)

[PLAIN]http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/4919/graphua.png

Graphically I can deduce that since x = y = 1 at the peak, then cos\vartheta = sqrt(2) :. \vartheta = \frac{\pi}{4}

and it looks like r goes from 0 to 2cos\vartheta //Which I am told is wrong

This leads me to two questions:
1) How would I find r graphically here?
2) Is it possible to convert to polar algebraically?

I tried to convert the inequalities seperately but that led me to
D:{(r,\vartheta)| \frac{\pi}{4} < \vartheta < 0, 0 < r < 2cos\vartheta}

//My method is below
0<y<(2x-x2)1/2
02 < y2 < 2x - x2
0 < y2 + x2 < 2x
0 < r2 < 2rcos\vartheta[\tex]<br /> 0/r &lt; r &lt; 2cos\vartheta<br /> <br /> 1 &lt; x &lt; 2<br /> 1 &lt; rcos\vartheta &lt; 2<br /> r has a maximum value of 2cos\vartheta <br /> 1 &lt; 2 cos<sup>2</sup>\vartheta &lt; 2<br /> 1/2 &lt; cos<sup>2</sup>\vartheta &lt; 1<br /> 1/sqrt(2) &lt; cos\vartheta &lt; 1<br /> \frac{\pi}{4} &lt; \vartheta &lt; 0
<br /> Your last inequality is wrong - theta is between 0 and pi/4, but your inequalilty says that pi/4 &lt; 0.<br /> The range for theta should be <br /> 0 \leq \theta \leq \frac{\pi}{4}
 
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I know, that's one of the problems. The inequalities didn't switch when I tried to do it algebraicaly :. I'm doing something wrong. The first inequality wrong as well. it should be
\frac{1}{cos \theta} \leq r \leq 2cos \theta
 
Yes, you are doing something wrong. Look at the graph of y = cos(theta) on the interval [0, pi/2]. The function is decreasing on this interval, so if the y values are 1/sqrt(2) < cos(theta) < 1, the theta values will be in the opposite order. I.e., 0 < theta < pi/4.
 

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