How do I find the tension in a cable in an elevator cab?

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The problem involves calculating the tension in a cable supporting an elevator cab with a combined mass of 1600 kg, which is being brought to rest from a downward motion of 12 m/s over a distance of 42 m. The context is rooted in dynamics and kinematics.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the use of SUVAT equations to find acceleration and question the original poster's approach to the problem. There is mention of uncertainty regarding the equations provided in the textbook and the original poster's struggle with the calculations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with some participants suggesting the use of specific equations to find acceleration. There is acknowledgment of the original poster's frustration and a shared concern regarding the adequacy of the textbook used.

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Participants note that the textbook did not provide necessary equations, leading to confusion and difficulty in solving the problem. There is a sense of shared experience regarding the challenges faced in engineering studies.

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Homework Statement


"An elevator cab and its load have a combined mass of 1600 kg. Find the tension in the supporting cable when the cab, originally moving downward at 12 m/s, is brought to rest with constant acceleration in a distance of 42 m."

##m = 1600 kg##
##v = 12 m/s##
##d = 42 m##

Homework Equations


##t = d/v##
Answer: ##T = 1.8 * 10^4 N##

The Attempt at a Solution


##t = (42 m)/(12 m/s) = 3.5 s##
##v/s = (12 m/s)/(3.5 s) = 3.43 m/s^2##
##T = (1600 kg)(9.8 m/s^2 - 3.43 m/s^2) = 10192 N ≠ 18000 N##

I honestly have no idea how to tackle this problem, am just making guesses, and find it difficult to be doing this everyday as a student engineer. It's supposed to be so simple, yet I can't bloody do this. I'm doubting my ability to enter the engineering field if I can't do a simple problem such as this.
 
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Eclair_de_XII said:

Homework Statement


"An elevator cab and its load have a combined mass of 1600 kg. Find the tension in the supporting cable when the cab, originally moving downward at 12 m/s, is brought to rest with constant acceleration in a distance of 42 m."

##m = 1600 kg##
##v = 12 m/s##
##d = 42 m##

Homework Equations


##t = d/v##
Answer: ##T = 1.8 * 10^4 N##

The Attempt at a Solution


##t = (42 m)/(12 m/s) = 3.5 s##
##v/s = (12 m/s)/(3.5 s) = 3.43 m/s^2##
##T = (1600 kg)(9.8 m/s^2 - 3.43 m/s^2) = 10192 N ≠ 18000 N##

I honestly have no idea how to tackle this problem, am just making guesses, and find it difficult to be doing this everyday as a student engineer. It's supposed to be so simple, yet I can't bloody do this. I'm doubting my ability to enter the engineering field if I can't do a simple problem such as this.
You've just thrown some calculations together at the end of your post.

There is a SUVAT equation which combines initial velocity, final velocity, distance traveled, and acceleration. Have you tried using that to find the acceleration a?
 
SteamKing said:
There is a SUVAT equation which combines initial velocity, final velocity, distance traveled, and acceleration. Have you tried using that to find the acceleration a?

The textbook did not give me any equations to work with, so I didn't even know to use them.
 
Eclair_de_XII said:
The textbook did not give me any equations to work with, so I didn't even know to use them.
You've got a computer. There's a wealth of knowledge at your fingertips. Google "SUVAT equations" and you can find what you need.

P.S.: What kind of textbook doesn't have equations in it? Throw that thing away. It's defective.
 
SteamKing said:
Google "SUVAT equations" and you can find what you need.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equat...translational_acceleration_in_a_straight_line

SteamKing said:
There is a SUVAT equation which combines initial velocity, final velocity, distance traveled, and acceleration.

From that link...
##v^2 = u^2 + 2as##
##0 = (12 m/s)^2 + 2a(42 m)##
##a = -(12 m/s)^2/2(42 m)##
##a = -1.7143 m/s^2##
##F = (a + g)(1600 kg) = (-1.7143 m/s^2 - 9.8 m/s^2)(1600 kg) = -18,423 N##
##T = -F = 18,423 N##

SteamKing said:
P.S.: What kind of textbook doesn't have equations in it? Throw that thing away. It's defective.

Thank you for saying this. I thought it was just me. I made a whole topic voicing my complaints on it, and I was convinced to keep using it, until now.
 

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