How do i perform differentiation over summation?

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The discussion revolves around the differentiation of a matrix-vector product, specifically differentiating the expression ##Hx## with respect to the vector ##x##. Participants explore the definitions and implications of such differentiation, particularly in the context of vectors and matrices.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the meaning of differentiating a vector ##y## with respect to another vector ##x##, seeking clarification on the type of derivative being defined.
  • There is uncertainty regarding the nature of ##x##, with one participant noting that if ##x## is a vector of constants, the concept of differentiation may not apply in the traditional sense.
  • One participant confirms that ##x## is indeed a vector and that ##H## is a matrix, indicating a desire to differentiate the product ##Hx## with respect to ##x##.
  • Another participant reiterates the need for clarity on what ##x## represents in this context, suggesting that the definition of ##x## is crucial for understanding the differentiation process.

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Participants express differing views on the definition and applicability of differentiation in this scenario, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing interpretations of the problem.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions about the nature of ##x## and ##H##, as well as the mathematical steps involved in the differentiation process, which have not been fully articulated.

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It isn't clear what you mean by ##\frac{d}{dx} y##. Are you differentiating a vector ##y## with respect to to another vector ##x## ? (If so, how do you define that sort of derivative?) Or are you differentiating a vector of functions of the scalar variable ##x## with respect to ##x## ?

You say that ##x## has exactly N samples. If ##x## is vector of constants, I don't what you would mean by differentiating with respect to ##x##. If you have some function ##f(x)## and some set of constants ## c_1,c_2,...## you can talk about forming the derivatives ## f'(c_1), f'(c_2),...##.
 
Thank you so much for your reply,
You are right, here x is a vector and H is a matrix, and i want to differentiate Hx with respect to x

Here's the complete problem
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that's how far i have gone, probably it's wrong.
 

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Stephen Tashi said:
It isn't clear what you mean by ##\frac{d}{dx} y##. Are you differentiating a vector ##y## with respect to to another vector ##x## ? (If so, how do you define that sort of derivative?) Or are you differentiating a vector of functions of the scalar variable ##x## with respect to ##x## ?

You say that ##x## has exactly N samples. If ##x## is vector of constants, I don't what you would mean by differentiating with respect to ##x##. If you have some function ##f(x)## and some set of constants ## c_1,c_2,...## you can talk about forming the derivatives ## f'(c_1), f'(c_2),...##.

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please let me know if it's okay!
that's how far i have gone, probably it's wrong.
 
mahmud_dbm said:
Thank you so much for your reply,
You are right, here x is a vector and H is a matrix, and i want to differentiate Hx with respect to x.
You still haven't explained what ##x## is.
 

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