How Do Tractive Forces and Rolling Resistance Affect a Car Wheel's Motion?

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The discussion focuses on understanding the relationship between tractive forces, rolling resistance, and a car wheel's motion. It highlights the importance of static friction force (Fs) and rolling resistance (Frr) in calculating the forces acting on a tire moving at constant speed. The user initially misinterprets the direction of rolling resistance but later clarifies that it acts opposite to the motion from the wheel's center. They derive an equation relating these forces but seek confirmation and further resources for a deeper understanding. The conversation emphasizes the need for accurate calculations and diagrams to illustrate these concepts effectively.
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Diagram = http://i.imgur.com/LaUO4.jpg

The tire is powered by a motor of torque T. It's weight is W and the static friction force is Fs. Consider that the tire is moving upwards in a constant speed of V.

I would like to understand the relations between forces on a model like above.
Also how can I show the rolling resistance? What's the direction?
For example what would be the value of Fs?

What resources/books can you recommend to better understand this?

Thank you
 
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Ok from what i understand rolling resistance creates a torque opposite to the motor but where from the force is applied? How can i include in my calculations?
 
See http://hpwizard.com/car-performance.html" (at the bottom of the page, Theory »» Longitudinal acceleration)

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Ok I think I cracked it.
According to wiki page rolling resistance is applied in the reverse direction of the motion from the center of the wheel (somehow I missed it the first time sorry)

Since there is no acceleration the overall force should be 0 thus I can write this equation

F_s = F_{rr} + W.sin(\alpha) where F_s = T/r and F_{rr} = W.cos(\alpha).C_{rr} so the equation becomes:

T/r = W.cos(\alpha).C_{rr} + W.sin(\alpha)

Am I on the right track here?
 
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How would I have to change the above equation if let's say there is an obstacle in front of the wheel by the dimensions LxL like in below
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thank you
 
Ok I now know that the above diagram and formula is false.
The force needed to move the tire is equal to the static friction between the tire and the road right. So F_s = W.cos(\alpha).\mu_s
But there is also W.sin(\alpha) and F_{rr} working in the opposite direction of F_s so the force needed to move the tire upwards is F = F_s + F_{rr} + W.sin(\alpha) am I correct? anyone know any books that explains the tractive forces and rolling resistance on a car wheel?
Or can you at least provide me with a free body diagram of a car wheel at constant speed?

thank you
 
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