How Do You Calculate an Infinite Sum of Fractions Involving Limits?

AI Thread Summary
The discussion centers on calculating an infinite sum of fractions involving limits, specifically the limit of a sum that resembles a harmonic series. The original poster, Michael, seeks to determine the limit of a sum defined by a formula that includes constants and converges to a value related to channel capacity in communication schemes. Respondents express skepticism about the convergence of the sum, suggesting it resembles a harmonic series, which typically diverges. They recommend using approximations instead of exact calculations, noting that the sum can be transformed into an integral for easier evaluation. The conversation concludes with gratitude for the insights shared.
miggimig
Messages
3
Reaction score
0
Hi,

actually, I need to calculate an infinite sum of fractions. The problem is that the Limit of the sum is part of the summands. The formula looks like this:

\lim_{n \to \infty} \sum_{i=1}^{n} \frac{1}{n(1 + \lambda + \sigma^2)-i(1+\lambda)},

where 'itex]\sigma[/itex] and \lambda are constants. Numerically, this infinite sum converges to a value that can be interpreted as a first order approximation of a channel capacity for some communication scheme.

My idea to determine this limit is to calculate the finite sum of n terms first. Since, in this case, n is constant, the sum can be written as:

\sum_{i=1}^{n}{\frac{1}{a-ib}}, where a > n b

When it would be possible to find a conversion of this sum, I thought it might also be possible to determine the limit for n to \infty.

If anyone has ideas how to solve the problem, I would be grateful for comments and feedback.

Thanks a lot,

Michael
 
Mathematics news on Phys.org
Are you sure the sum converges? Off hand it looks like (term by term) it converges to a harmonc series, which diverges.
 
The largest summand is 1 / ( n(1+\lambda + \sigma^2) - (1 + \lambda)) and the smallest summand is 1 / (n \sigma^2), so the limit (or limit points, if it doesn't converge) must be between 1 / \sigma^2 and 1 / (1 + \lambda + \sigma^2), so the limit can't diverge to \infty.

For the opening poster -- it is probably much easier to approximate rather than compute exactly. Since the series does resemble the harmonic series, it might be useful to use a well-known approximation (or one of your basic approximation methods if you don't recall it)...
 
\lim_{n \to \infty} \sum_{i=1}^{n} \frac{1}{n(1 + \lambda + \sigma^2)-i(1+\lambda)}\\<br /> =\lim_{n \to \infty} \dfrac{1}{n}\sum_{i=1}^{n} \frac{1}{(1 + \lambda + \sigma^2)-\frac{i}{n}(1+\lambda)}\\<br /> =\int_{0}^{1}\frac{dx}{(1 + \lambda + \sigma^2)-x(1+\lambda)}<br />
 
mathman said:
Are you sure the sum converges? Off hand it looks like (term by term) it converges to a harmonc series, which diverges.

The above sum is similar to a difference of harmonic series. Something like
H_{2n} - H_{n}=\sum_{k=1}^{n} \frac{1}{n+k}
which converges to \ln 2.
 
Thank you all very much! You helped me a lot!
 
Thread 'Video on imaginary numbers and some queries'
Hi, I was watching the following video. I found some points confusing. Could you please help me to understand the gaps? Thanks, in advance! Question 1: Around 4:22, the video says the following. So for those mathematicians, negative numbers didn't exist. You could subtract, that is find the difference between two positive quantities, but you couldn't have a negative answer or negative coefficients. Mathematicians were so averse to negative numbers that there was no single quadratic...
Insights auto threads is broken atm, so I'm manually creating these for new Insight articles. In Dirac’s Principles of Quantum Mechanics published in 1930 he introduced a “convenient notation” he referred to as a “delta function” which he treated as a continuum analog to the discrete Kronecker delta. The Kronecker delta is simply the indexed components of the identity operator in matrix algebra Source: https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/what-exactly-is-diracs-delta-function/ by...
Thread 'Unit Circle Double Angle Derivations'
Here I made a terrible mistake of assuming this to be an equilateral triangle and set 2sinx=1 => x=pi/6. Although this did derive the double angle formulas it also led into a terrible mess trying to find all the combinations of sides. I must have been tired and just assumed 6x=180 and 2sinx=1. By that time, I was so mindset that I nearly scolded a person for even saying 90-x. I wonder if this is a case of biased observation that seeks to dis credit me like Jesus of Nazareth since in reality...
Back
Top