How Do You Calculate Choked Flow of Propane Based on Natural Gas Parameters?

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To calculate the equivalent choked flow of propane based on the choked flow of natural gas, the key equations involve the volumetric flow rates and the relative densities of the gases. The initial calculation suggests that using the formula qvf = qvr (SQRT 1/d) yields a flow rate of 8.03 litres/s for propane. However, another approach using the formula qvf = qvr (SQRT Pr/Pf) results in a flow rate of 6.70 litres/s, which considers the densities of both gases. There is uncertainty about which formula is appropriate, as one is based on air as a reference gas while the other incorporates natural gas density. The discussion highlights the confusion surrounding the correct application of these equations in comparing different gases.
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Homework Statement

Calculate the equivalent choked flow of propane through a particular valve if the choked flow of natural gas through it is 10 litres s–1.The relative density* of propane is 1.45 and that natural gas is 0.65.

Homework Equations


Kvf = qv (SQRT d/DeltaP) ...1

d is fluids relative density to water / air
P is pressure

Kvf = (SQRTd) x Kvr ......2

where Kvf is valve coefficient of actual gas,
Kvr reference gas

qvf = qvr (SQRT Pr/Pf) ......3

q is volumetric flow rate
Pr is density of ref gas
Pf density of actual gas

qvf = qvr (SQRT 1/d)

The Attempt at a Solution



Not really sure where to start with this. The confusion is because I am comparing a gas (propane) to another gas other than air.

I know I need to find qvf. I am a bit lost with this. Can anyone point me in the right direction or give me a hint please?

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I think the answer is:
qvf = qvr (SQRT 1/d)
=10 * (SQRT 1/1.45)
=10 * 0.83
=8.03litres/s

Is this correct? I think this works because the equation uses densities relative to air.

I am worried because I have an example of a similar question that uses the above, only it states the chocked flow is with air. What the concern is the equation does not use the density of natural gas. So I am thinking this formula is tied to air as the reference gas. so should I use this formula?

qvf = qvr (SQRT Pr/Pf)
=10 (SQRT 0.65/1.45)
=6.70litres/s.

The answer of 6.7 looks better to me, given the density of NG is 0.65 and Propane 1.45.

Are any of these correct?

Thanks
 
hello, did you ever figure out if either the 6.7litre/s or 8.03litre/s is correct? I am at exactly the same point as you and unsure which value to use
 
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