How Do You Calculate Entropy Change in a Reversible Cyclic Process?

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In a reversible cyclic process involving an ideal gas, the entropy change is calculated for three stages: isothermal expansion from state A to B, adiabatic compression from B to C, and cooling at constant volume from C back to A. The entropy change from A to B is given by ΔS = nRln(V2/V1), while the change from B to C is zero due to the adiabatic nature of the process. The entropy change from C to A is calculated as ΔS = nCv ln(TA/TC). The total change in entropy for the cycle is the sum of the changes in each segment, confirming that there is no net change in the cyclic process. The calculations demonstrate the relationship between volume and temperature changes in the context of thermodynamic principles.
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An ideal gas undergoes a reversible, cycli process. First it expands isothermally from state A to state B. It is then compressed adiabatically to state C. Finally, it is cooled at constant volume to its original state, A.

I have to calculate the change in entropy of the gas in each one of the three processes and show that there is no net change in the cyclic process.

O.K. From A to B Delta S is nRln(V2/V1) since the process from A to B is isothermal. Delta S is 0 from B to C since that process occurs adiabatically.
But I am having trouble with the Delta S for the process from C to A. So far I have Delta S is Cv ln(T1/T2) But I'm having trouble converting this to something similar to the Delta S for A to B

Could someone please tell me if I'm on the right track with this problem, and possibly give me a hint
 
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Knight said:
An ideal gas undergoes a reversible, cycli process. First it expands isothermally from state A to state B. It is then compressed adiabatically to state C. Finally, it is cooled at constant volume to its original state, A.

I have to calculate the change in entropy of the gas in each one of the three processes and show that there is no net change in the cyclic process.

O.K. From A to B Delta S is nRln(V2/V1) since the process from A to B is isothermal. Delta S is 0 from B to C since that process occurs adiabatically.
But I am having trouble with the Delta S for the process from C to A. So far I have Delta S is Cv ln(T1/T2) But I'm having trouble converting this to something similar to the Delta S for A to B

Could someone please tell me if I'm on the right track with this problem, and possibly give me a hint
You are right on the first two parts:

\Delta S_{CA} = \int_C^A ds = \int_C^A dQ/T

Since: dQ = dU + PdV and dV = 0, dQ = dU = nC_vdT

\Delta S_{CA} = \int_C^A nC_v\frac{dT}{T} = nC_v\ln\frac{T_A}{T_C}

So the total change in entropy is:

\Delta S_{AA} = nR\ln\frac{V_B}{V_A} + nC_v\ln\frac{T_A}{T_C}

So the question is whether:

nR\ln\frac{V_B}{V_A} = nC_v\ln\frac{T_C}{T_A}

AM
 
I solved it.

Thanks :smile:
 
Knight said:
I solved it.

Thanks :smile:
I trust that you used the fact that the adiabatic condition applies to the compression phase. So for the B-C phase:

\left(\frac{V_C}{V_B}\right)^{1-\gamma} = \frac{T_C}{T_B}
AM
 
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