How Do You Calculate the Mass of a Moving Ball After Collision?

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To calculate the mass of a moving ball after a collision, the conservation of momentum principle is applied. A ball with an unknown mass rolls at 3.5 m/s and collides with a stationary 5.0 kg ball, resulting in both sticking together and moving at 2.5 m/s. The momentum before the collision must equal the momentum after the collision, leading to the equation M(a) * 3.5 m/s + 0 = (M(a) + 5 kg) * 2.5 m/s. The discussion highlights the importance of correctly incorporating mass into momentum calculations, as the final velocity must be multiplied by the total mass after the collision. Properly setting up the equation allows for the determination of the unknown mass.
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Homework Statement


A ball rolls at a velocity of 3.5m/s toward a 5.0kg ball at rest. They collide and stick and move off at 2.5 m/s. What was the mass of the moving ball?[/B]

Homework Equations


Pa + Pb = 0
M(a)V(a) = - M(b)V(b)[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution


So.. The ball at rest had zero momentum... Therefore how are we supposed to find the momentum in total if we are only given 3 numbers to work w/ ... We can't determine the moving ball momentum.. Soo[/B]
 
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Mrchilko said:

Homework Statement


A ball rolls at a velocity of 3.5m/s toward a 5.0kg ball at rest. They collide and stick and move off at 2.5 m/s. What was the mass of the moving ball?[/B]

Homework Equations


Pa + Pb = 0
M(a)V(a) = - M(b)V(b)[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution


So.. The ball at rest had zero momentum... Therefore how are we supposed to find the momentum in total if we are only given 3 numbers to work w/ ... We can't determine the moving ball momentum.. Soo[/B]
You are given four velocities and one mass. There's only one unknown, and you have an equation.
 
But ... If the second ball at rest has a momentum of 0kg°m/s ... Then M(a)3.5m/s (a)= 5.0kg(b)0m/s(b)

So saying (?)*(3.5m/s) + (5.0kg)*( 0 m/s) = 2.5 m/s..
 
Mrchilko said:

Homework Statement


A ball rolls at a velocity of 3.5m/s toward a 5.0kg ball at rest. They collide and stick and move off at 2.5 m/s. What was the mass of the moving ball?[/B]

Homework Equations


Pa + Pb = 0
M(a)V(a) = - M(b)V(b)[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution


So.. The ball at rest had zero momentum... Therefore how are we supposed to find the momentum in total if we are only given 3 numbers to work w/ ... We can't determine the moving ball momentum.. Soo[/B]

Check the relevant equation ##P_a + P_b = 0##. Are you sure that's correct? Shouldn't it be something else:
$$P_i = P_f \implies P_{a_i} + P_{b_i} = P_{a_f} + P_{b_f}$$
The ##i## denotes "initial" and ##f## denotes "final".
 
Mrchilko said:
But ... If the second ball at rest has a momentum of 0kg°m/s ... Then M(a)3.5m/s (a)= 5.0kg(b)0m/s(b)

So saying (?)*(3.5m/s) + (5.0kg)*( 0 m/s) = 2.5 m/s..
The term on the right has the wrong dimension. You've left out a factor.
 
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Yes 2.5m/s is only the velocity and the momentum has the units of kg*m/s
 
Mrchilko said:
Yes 2.5m/s is only the velocity and the momentum has the units of kg*m/s
So correct it. What factor did you leave out?
 
Mass... So it would look like (3.5m/s)(?) + (0m/s)(5kg) = (5+?kg) + ( 2.5m/s)
 
Mrchilko said:
Mass... So it would look like (3.5m/s)(?) + (0m/s)(5kg) = (5+?kg) + ( 2.5m/s)
Kg+m/s?!
 
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M*v
 
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Mrchilko said:
M*v
Ok, so write out the equation correctly and solve it.
 
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