How do you calculate voltage from Coulomb’s equation?

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The discussion revolves around calculating voltage using Coulomb's equation, specifically the relationship between electric force, charge, and distance. Participants explore the implications of large charge values and the resulting voltages, as well as comparisons to gravitational forces.

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  • Exploratory
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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about calculating voltage from Coulomb's equation, noting an unexpectedly high voltage of 10^9 volts between two coulombs 2 meters apart.
  • Another participant explains that the high voltage results from the large Coulomb constant and provides the formula for voltage, suggesting that the participant's math was correct to some degree.
  • There is an acknowledgment that one coulomb is a significant amount of charge, and even small differences in charge can lead to large voltages.
  • A suggestion is made to calculate the force required to hold two charges together, emphasizing the large values involved in electric forces compared to gravitational forces.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the implications of large charge values and the resulting voltages, but there is no consensus on the interpretation of the calculations or the broader implications of these values.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the significance of the Coulomb constant and the scale of charge, but do not resolve the confusion regarding the calculations or the implications of the results.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in electrostatics, particularly those exploring the relationships between charge, force, and voltage in theoretical and practical contexts.

Nads
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I know that the equation
F = CQ1Q2/r^2 can be rearranged to give electric field measured in volts per meter and then arearranged to get voltage but I don’t thing the answers I get are correct. I once got 10^9 volts between 2 coulombs 2 meters apart?

I am really confused please help.
 
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Hello Nads, a belated :welcome: !

Nads said:
I once got 10^9 volts between 2 coulombs 2 meters apart
That is because the Coulomb constant is so large. I even get $$V = { kq\over r } = 8.987 \times 10^9\ \rm{ J/C } $$ if ##\ r=2## m and ##\ q = 2 ## C.

On the other hand, one Coulomb is an awful lot of charge, given that one elementary charge (e.g. an electron) is 1.60217662 × 10-19 Coulomb.

Of course there are a lot of those around, but our in everyday experience we are used to neutrality: there may be a lot of them around, but about as many positive ones as negative ones. Fortunately :smile:.
And indeed, even a small relative difference in the numbers generates huge voltages.
 
Ok that makes sense. so these values are really high and my math was correct to some degree.
Thanks for clarifying that.
 
BvU said:
one Coulomb is an awful lot of charge,
It certainly is.
Use the equation
F = ke Q1 Q2 / r2
(ke = 8.9875×109 N m2 C−2)
and calculate the Force you would need to hold those two charges together. It is easy to ignore the actual numbers involved in simple thought experiments and you spotted the crazy PD needed. The Force is perhaps easier to appreciate.
Then do the same thing to find the gravitational force between two 1kg masses, separated by 1m. Quite a bit smaller! But, of course, gravity just goes on and on and there are no balancing forces of repulsion that limit the effect of force between real electric charges.
 

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