How Do You Convert GeV/c to m/s for Particle Velocities?

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This discussion focuses on converting particle momentum from GeV/c to velocity in m/s. The key relationship used is the energy-momentum relation, E² = (mc²)² + (pc)², where p represents momentum in energy units (GeV/c) and m is the particle's rest mass. Participants clarify that momentum (p) does not equal mass (m) times velocity (v) in relativistic contexts, necessitating the use of the equation p = mv/√(1 - v²/c²) for accurate calculations. The confusion arises from misapplying mass in calculations, leading to incorrect velocity values exceeding the speed of light.

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As the title said :)

I'm trying to find the velocity of a particle with a momentum of between 23 and 150 GeV/c. I found that 1 GeV/c = 5.36 x 10^-19 kg-m/s, and tried to divide by the mass of the particle - this just game me values between 7m/s and some crazy numbers.

What am I doing wrong :(
 
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One way is to use the relation
E^2=\left(mc^2 \right)^2+\left(pc \right)^2
where pc is 23 to 150 GeV (momentum in energy units), and mc^2 is the particle's rest mass (proton is 0.938 GeV). Then use \beta =pc/E to get \beta, and v=\beta c.
 
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Thank you for your help Bob S - I still can't manage to get the answer though.

When I set m to 5.5208x10^27kg, and p to 25GeV/c I end up getting a value that is faster than c when I solve for v. Can anyone help with this?
 
If 1 GeV/c = 5.36 x 10-19 kg-m/s though, why can't I do 25(5.36x10^-19)/particle's mass?
 
Using the relation
E^2=\left(mc^2 \right)^2+\left(pc \right)^2
where pc= 50 GeV and mc^2= 0.938 GeV, E = 50.008798 GeV.
So β= 50/ 50.008798= 0.99982 and βc = 2.9974 x 1010 cm/sec
 
iamBevan said:
If 1 GeV/c = 5.36 x 10-19 kg-m/s though, why can't I do 25(5.36x10^-19)/particle's mass?

Because p ≠ mv, if you're using the particle's "rest mass" in kg. The correct equation is

$$p = \frac{mv}{\sqrt{1 - v^2/c^2}}$$
 

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