How Do You Integrate Over an Octant for \(\frac{1}{x^2+y^2+z^2}\)?

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The discussion revolves around integrating the function \(\frac{1}{x^2+y^2+z^2}\) over an octant of a cube, specifically within the context of spherical coordinates and the implications of spherical wave propagation from a central light source.

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  • Participants explore converting the integral to spherical coordinates and integrating over a quarter of the octant. Questions arise about the validity of integration limits and the relationship between variables. Some participants suggest integrating sequentially over one variable at a time while holding others constant.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing various approaches and expressing challenges encountered during integration. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of the divergence theorem to potentially simplify the problem, and there is acknowledgment of symmetry in the setup.

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There are constraints regarding the dimensions of the cube, with clarification that it has a side length of 3, and the original problem relates to calculating time-averaged power from a light bulb at the center, which introduces additional context to the integration task.

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[tex]\int^{1.5}_{0}\int^{1.5}_{0}\int^{1.5}_{0}\frac{1}{x^2+y^2+z^2}dxdydz[/tex]

I tried converting this to spherical and only integrating over a quarter of the octant but with no luck.

Can someone please point me in the right direction.

Thanks!
 
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Do you know what
[tex]\int_0^{1.5} \frac{dx}{x^2+a^2}[/tex]

where [itex]a[/itex] is a constant is? If so, just integrate over x first holding y and z constant (i.e.[itex]a^2=y^2+z^2[/itex]) Then integrate over y, holding z constant. Lastly, integrate over z. Assuming that z,x,y have no functional relationship, and you limits of integration are correct, this is perfectly valid.
 
Yes, but then I get to

[tex]\int^{1.5}_{0}\int^{1.5}_{0}\frac{ArcTan(\frac{1.5}{\sqrt{y^2+z^2}})}{\sqrt{y^2+z^2}}dydz[/tex]

and get stuck.
 
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Hmmm... yes, Mathematica doesn't even want to do this integration. Is this really the original question?
 
no, it was to find the time averaged power inside a box produced by light bulb in the center.
This is a by product of assuming spherical wave propagation from the center of the box.
 
The cube is of side 1.5 or 3?
 
It's a cube with side length 3, I was just considering one octant.
 
I see; and the power is proportional to [itex]\frac{1}{r^2}[/itex]. The only thing I can think of that might help is to use the fact that

[tex]\vec{\nabla} \cdot \left( \frac{\hat{r}}{r} \right)=\frac{1}{r^2}[/tex]

to turn the volume integral into a surface integral via the divergence theorem. Then compute the flux of [itex]\vec{v} \equiv \frac{\hat{r}}{r}[/itex] Through each face of the cube.
 
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Interesting...that's sounds like something worth pursuing, thanks for the help!
 
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In fact, due to symmetry the flux through each face will be the same, so you only have to compute it for one face and then multiply by 6.
 

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