How Do You Prove RMS Speed Using Maxwell-Boltzmann Distributions?

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The discussion revolves around proving the expression for the root mean square (rms) speed using Maxwell-Boltzmann distributions. The original poster presents the problem statement, relevant equations, and their initial attempts at a solution, which involve integration techniques.

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  • The original poster attempts to prove the rms speed expression by relating it to the integral of the Maxwell-Boltzmann distribution. They express concern about complications arising from their substitution method. Other participants suggest using integration by parts and changing variables to simplify the integral.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering guidance on integration techniques and suggesting methods to simplify the original poster's integral. There is no explicit consensus yet, as various approaches are being explored.

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Homework Statement


This is the problem: I need to prove from the Maxwell-Boltzmann distributions the expression for the rms speed.

Homework Equations


[tex]v_{rms} = \sqrt{\frac{3kT}{m}}[/tex]
[tex]< v^2 > = 4\pi(\frac{m}{2\pi kT})^{3/2} \int v^4 e^{\frac{-mv^2}{2kT}} dv[/tex]
The limits on the integral are infinity and 0.

From what I know;
[tex]v_{rms} = sqrt{ <v^2> }[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


I did a similar one like this to prove the corresponding expression for <v>. I used a substitution and then used parts on the resulting expression, but if use that method on this one, you get a factor of [itex]u^{3/2}[/itex] times by the exponential (assuming the substitution is [itex]u = v^2[/itex]). This obviously causes problems, so I was wondering is there another way to do this proof without resorting to an integral or is there an easy way of doing this integral?

P.S. Sorry if this thread should be in the advanced physics part. I only thought of that after I posted.
 
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Do you know how to calculate (via the standard trick)

[tex]\int_0^\infty e^{-a x^2} dx?[/tex]

If you do, then using integration by parts a couple of times will reduce your integral to an integral of this form.
 
1. Do a change of variable just to neaten up the expression (i.e. absorb the constants into your variable with respect to which you're integrating so that you can take all constants out of the integral)
2. Use integration by parts
3. Fact:

[tex]\int _{-\infty} ^{\infty}e^{-x^2}dx = \sqrt{\pi }[/tex]
 
George Jones said:
Do you know how to calculate (via the standard trick)

[tex]\int_0^\infty e^{-a x^2} dx?[/tex]

If you do, then using integration by parts a couple of times will reduce your integral to an integral of this form.

It's nicer if you treat "a" as a parameter and consider the second derivative of the result...:wink:
 

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