How Do You Solve for x3[t] in Terms of x1[t]?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between three functions, x1[t], x2[t], and x3[t], with specific transformations defined. The original poster seeks to express x3[t] in terms of x1[t] based on the given definitions of x2 and x3.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to determine the correct expression for x3[t] based on the transformations of x1[t] and x2[t]. Some participants question the clarity of the original poster's attempts and suggest a focus on functional notation. Others propose renaming variables to simplify the understanding of the transformations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is exploring different interpretations of the transformations and the functional relationships between the variables. Some guidance has been offered regarding the understanding of functional notation, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct expression for x3[t].

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Participants are grappling with the concepts of shifting and compression in relation to the functions, and there is an emphasis on understanding how the transformations affect the variables involved.

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Homework Statement


If x2[t]= x1[t-2]
and x3[t]=x2[2t]

What is x3[t] in terms of x1[t]?

a) x3[t]= x1[2(t-2)]
b) x3[t]= x1[2t-2]

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which one?

The Attempt at a Solution



offcourse, but I am struggling with this concept of shifting. But I believe the answer should be A. since x3[t] is the compression version of x2[t], which is the shift version of x1[t].

So the overall transformation would be x3[2(t-2)], which is not correct.
 
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I don't see any "attempt at a solution". Have you not tried?
 
HallsofIvy said:
I don't see any "attempt at a solution". Have you not tried?



offcourse, but I am struggling with this concept of shifting. But I believe the answer should be A. since x3[t] is the compression version of x2[t], which is the shift version of x1[t].

So the overall transformation would be x3[2(t-2)], which does not correct.
 
This problem is not so much about "shifting" as it is about understanding functional notation. You are given that x2[t]= x1[t- 2]. That is exactly the same thing as saying that x2[y]= x1[y- 2] or x2[a]= x1[a- 2]. Whatever is in the braces of x2, in the x1 function, you subtract 2 from it. In x3[t]= x2[2t], what is "in the braces of x2" is "2t" so x3[t]= x2[2t]. What do you get when you replace "t" with "2t" in x1?
 
I think this one is easiest to see algebraically. Let's rename some variables to avoid confusion. So let
x2(u) = x1(u - 2)
x3(v) = x2(2v)

Now set v = t. What will u be?
 

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