How Do You Solve This Trigonometric Limit Problem?

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The discussion centers on solving the limit problem as x approaches π/4 for the expression (1 - tan x) / (sin x - cos x). A substitution of y = x - π/4 is suggested to simplify the limit, but confusion arises regarding the application of standard limit theorems like lim x->0 tan x/x = 1 and lim x->0 sin x/x = 1. It is clarified that these theorems cannot be directly applied since the argument of the tangent is not approaching zero. The importance of using Taylor expansions around y=0 is emphasized to correctly evaluate the limit. The conversation concludes that differing results from various methods indicate a mistake in at least one approach.
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Homework Statement


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##\lim x\rightarrow \frac{\pi }{4} (\frac{1-\tan x}{\sin x - \cos x})##

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By assuming y = x-π/4 , the limit become :

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\lim y\rightarrow 0 (\frac{1- \tan (y+\frac{\pi}{4})}{\sin (y+\frac{\pi}{4}) - \cos (y+\frac{\pi}{4})})
= \lim y\rightarrow 0 (\frac{1- (y + (\frac{\pi}{4})) (\frac{\tan (y+\frac{\pi}{4})}{y+(\frac{\pi}{4})})}{(y + (\frac{\pi}{4})) \frac{\sin (y+\frac{\pi}{4})}{(y + (\frac{\pi}{4}))} - \cos (y+\frac{\pi}{4})})
= (\frac{1-\frac{\pi}{4}(1)}{\frac{\pi}{4}(1)-\frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}})##

But, using the identity tan x = sin x/ cos x and by graph, I get the answer is ##-\sqrt{2}##

So, please tell me the wrong that I did..
Why can't we just use the theorem lim x-> 0 tan x/x = 1 and lim x->0 sin x/x =1 ??
I don't understand the steps to solve a trigonometric limit, because using different methods, the answer can be different
 
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terryds said:
Why can't we just use the theorem lim x-> 0 tan x/x = 1 and lim x->0 sin x/x =1 ??
Because the argument of the tangent is not what is approaching zero. You need the Taylor expansion of the expressions around y=0, not x = 0.
 
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terryds said:
I don't understand the steps to solve a trigonometric limit, because using different methods, the answer can be different
No. Using a different method should not result in a different limit value. If you use two different methods to evaluate a limit, and get two different answers, then you have made a mistake in one (at least) of those methods.
 
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