How Do You Solve Trigonometric Equations for Angles Between 0 and 180 Degrees?

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The discussion focuses on solving various trigonometric equations for angles between 0 and 180 degrees. Participants share methods for manipulating equations, using identities, and factoring to find solutions. Key equations discussed include sin2x = cos3x, 2cos^2x = sinx + 1, and tan^2x = 3tanx. The importance of correctly applying the quadratic formula and recognizing valid solutions within the specified range is emphasized. Overall, the conversation highlights collaborative problem-solving and the need for clarity in understanding trigonometric identities and algebraic manipulation.
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1. Solve Each Equation For 0 (degrees)_< x _<180 (degrees)
2.

1. sin 2x = cos 3x
2. 2cos^2x = sinx +1
3. cos^2x - 7/2cosx-2=0
4.tan^2x = 3tanx
5. sin2x=cos3x3. The Attempt at a Solution

1. sin2x - cos3x = 0
2sinx - cos3x=0
??2. square both sides?

3. cos^2x - 7/2cosx - 2 Factored??

4.I'm sorry, no idea

5. sin2x - cos3x = o
?Thanks a lot, I am having huge trouble with this subject. Any guides, and help would be very largely appreciated, I have a huge test on Friday. Thanks a lot
 
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I'm going to help you, but you're going to have to work every single problem with me.

1. \sin{2x}-\cos{3x}=0

What is you reasoning for \sin{2x} \rightarrow 2\sin{x} Is that an identity?
 
no I'm sorry, i must have typed something wrong, that is not an identity...I was making an attempt, and ended up deleting it because it was wrong...I mistakenly left that in.
 
babacanoosh said:
no I'm sorry, i must have typed something wrong, that is not an identity...I was making an attempt, and ended up deleting it because it was wrong...I mistakenly left that in.
That's fine, let's start by doing a simple algebraic manipulation to cosine 3x.

\sin 2x = \cos{(2x+x)}

We have an identity for \cos{(x+y)} which says that it's just cosxcosy-sinxsiny, so let's apply that to our manipulated cosine.
 
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ok, so

sin2x = cos2x cosx - sin2x sinx

RHS: cos2x = 2cos^2x - 1 in identities so,

2cos^2x - 1 ( cosx) - 2sinxcosx (sinx)

=2cos^3x-cosx - 2sinx^2 cosx(sinx)?
?? I think I am doing this way wrong
 
I did it differently, but you're on the right track

\sin 2x=\cos x\cos{2x}-\sin x\sin{2x}

2\sin x \cos x=\cos x(1-2\sin^{2}x)-2\sin^{2}x\cos x

2\sin x \cos x=\cos x - 4\sin^{2}x\cos x

Follow me? Next step, put it all on 1 side and factor out a common term of cosine.
 
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Still there?
 
yes sorry i was eating dinner
 
babacanoosh said:
yes sorry i was eating dinner
Is ok, I'm eating dinner as well. Just reply back when you're done or still want help.
 
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so this would then go to cosx (2sinx-x) -cosx(4sin^2)=0 ?
 
  • #11
babacanoosh said:
so this would then go to cosx (2sinx-x) -cosx(4sin^2)=0 ?
It should become ...

\cos x (4\sin^2 x + 2\sin x -1)=0

You factored out incorrectly. So from here, set them individually equal to 0.

\cos x =0 This should yield 2 solutions.

4\sin^2 x + 2\sin x - 1=0 You will need to use the quadratic formula in order to solve for your roots.
 
  • #12
ok i see, so for cosx = 0, this would be 90 degrees.

Using the quadratic equation, i came out with -2 plus or minus (2*square root of 5)/8...i am doing something way wrong, the quadriatic equation is -b plus or minus the (square root of b^2 - 4ac)/2a...i used the numbers from 4sin^2x +2sinx-1=0
 
  • #13
babacanoosh said:
ok i see, so for cosx = 0, this would be 90 degrees.

Using the quadratic equation, i came out with -2 plus or minus (2*square root of 5)/8...i am doing something way wrong, the quadriatic equation is -b plus or minus the (square root of b^2 - 4ac)/2a...i used the numbers from 4sin^2x +2sinx-1=0
You did it correctly.

Also, I forgot this is only from 0-180, so be careful with the values you find from the quadratic equation.

Remember pi is approx 3.14, so anything bigger just discard.

After reducing ... \sin x =\frac{-1\pm\sqrt 5}{4}
 
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Thanks a lot, i seem to be having trouble factoring simple things for some reason, such as 2 sin^2x -1 = 0...any tips or tricks that you use?

a+b+c=0

for equations don't have a number infront of the "a" place, I usually think of numbers that add to b, and multiply to c...any tips for equations that have numbers in front of the A? Sorry, I know this is very simple math, but I never quite learned this too strongly.
 
  • #15
2\sin^2 x-1=0

Just move 1 to the other side, divide by 2, take the square root of both sides.

\sin x =\pm\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}

So your solution is ...

x=\sin^{-1}\left(\pm\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}\right)

If there isn't a number in the place of the a, then the number is simply 1.
 
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so moving onto the 2nd problem, i am confused on what to do.
 
  • #17
2\cos^2 x=\sin x +1

Think of an identity that you can use so your equation is in terms of 1 identity.
 
  • #18
sinx^2 + cosx^2 = 1 maybe??

i really am not sure to do to this problem,
maybe 2cos^2x - sinx +1=o?

the sin x isn't squared though, I am not sure.
 
  • #19
babacanoosh said:
sinx^2 + cosx^2 = 1 maybe??
Right.

the sin x isn't squared though, I am not sure.
Doesn't mean you have to change the sine term.

Can you manipulate the identity sin^2 x+\cos^2 x=1 so that you can change your problem?
 
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I know you can, I am just lost exactly what to do, maybe then...cos^2x -1 = sinx? then what do you do? for the identitiy sinx^2 + cosx^2 = 1 if you squared the whole thing it would be sinx + cosx =1...this isn't the same, i know that is wrong...i honestly don't know what to do.
 
  • #21
Well basically, I wanted you to replace the cosine squared term. Use the identity sin^2 x + cos^2 x = 1 to replace the cos^2 x of your problem.
 
  • #22
ohh...i see...hm, so then

sinx + 1-sin^2x =1
sin^2x+sin -2 = 0

(sinx+2)(sinx-1)
sinx=-2 ( no solution because less than -1) and sinx=1 (which is 90 degrees)

Is this correct? Thanks you just turned on a light bulb for me, even if this is wrong, I now see it differently.
 
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babacanoosh said:
Is this correct? Thanks you just turned on a light bulb for me, even if this is wrong, I now see it differently.
It was really really really close :-]

\cos^2 x = 1-\sin^2 x

2(1-\sin^2 x)=\sin x +1

2\sin^2 x +\sin x -1=0

Factor it.
 
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ok, so
sinx=1, 1/2,

x=90 degrees, and 30 degrees.

Still wrong?

Thanks a lot for your help, you have been a huggggeee help.
 
  • #25
Oh sorry about saying to use the quad. formula, you just had to factor it which I think you did anyways.

But, only one of your answer is correct. The other should have been -1.

(2\sin^2 x-1)(\sin x+1)=0
 
  • #26
ok thanks,
this is another problem that i am doing right now,
this as far as i have gotten:

Solve for all values of Xsinxtanx-tanx=0sinx(sinx/cosx) -(sin/cos) =0
(sin^2x -sinx)/cosx = 0
(sin^2x -sinx)/cosx (cosx) = 0(cosx)
(sin^2x-sinx)=o

i think i have messed up so far, maybe in the beginning with even the tangents...i don't knowthe answer comes out to being 180k degrees as stated as the answer, i am not sure how to get to it.
 
  • #27
\sin x \tan x -\tan x =0

Factor out a common term, then set the factors equal to 0.
 
  • #28
tan(sin-1)=0
tan=0, sin = 1

90 +360k degrees?
 
  • #29
Yes, but you also have more solutions. tan=0?

I'm going to my friend's house, maybe I will get on there when if I have time. But other people will probably answer.

Good luck and I'm sure you'll do fine!
 
  • #30
ok thanks for your help,

tanx=0

x=180k degrees,
so the answer would be 360k degrees.
 
  • #31
babacanoosh said:
ok thanks for your help,

tanx=0

x=180k degrees,
so the answer would be 360k degrees.
Yes, but don't forget your solutions are from 0-180.

tanx=0 whenever sinx=0.
 
  • #32
ok, thanks
 
  • #33
i have a few new problems that i can't seem to get:

Solve 0-180 degrees

tan^2x- (square root of 3)tanx=0

Attempt:
simplified it all the way down to 1-ot^2x=sec^2x...stuck there, or i just did i way wrong

Next problem:

tan2xcotx-3=0

attempt:

simplified it to sinx=1/2...

i did it wrong, because this is the wrong answer.
 
  • #34
\tan^2 x -\sqrt 3 \tan x=0

Correct?
 
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sorry let me try again..


tan^2x - (square root of 3) *tanx=0
 
  • #36
What common term do you have that you could factor ... ? You explored this method with the other problems, refer back to them if you need.
 
  • #37
tangent...
tan(tan-square root of 3)=0
tan = 0

0 degrees and 180 degrees

tan = square root of 3

60 degrees,

so answer is 0, 60, 180 degrees

thanks, i don't understand why i didnt see that one, however the next one i am still stuck
 
  • #38
How did you simplify it to sinx=1/2?
 
  • #39
i don't even know anymore, it involved squaring the equation and then changing cot^2x into 1-csc^2x...im way off i guess.
 
  • #40
\tan 2x \cot x -3 =0

Use an identity to re-write tan2x then use another identity to get it in terms of x, not 2x, and change cotx in terms of sines and cosines. Cancel like terms and multiply like terms, and it's solved.
 
  • #41
ok thanks,

Another problem, same directions:

sin2x=2cosx

attempt:

2sinxcosx-2cosx=0
2sinx-cosx=0

stuck on what to do from here
 
  • #42
2sinxcosx-2cosx=0
2sinx-cosx=0

What was your reasoning for the 2nd step? Refer back to the 1st problem we worked on tonight ... I don't think you're thinking hard enough.
 
  • #43
I'm sorry, that's wrong,

well cos(2sin -2)=0
cos=0

90 degrees

sinx=1

90 degres

the final answer would be 90 degrees
 
  • #44
That's right.
 
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