How Does a Constant Current Circuit Boost Resistance in Differential Amplifiers?

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The discussion centers around the role of a constant current circuit in differential amplifiers, particularly its effect on increasing the effective resistance in the emitter section (Re) and its implications for common mode signal amplification. The conversation explores theoretical aspects, circuit design considerations, and the relationship between current and resistance in this context.

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  • Some participants propose that a constant current circuit increases the resistance Re in a differential amplifier, leading to reduced common mode signal amplification and noise.
  • One participant questions whether it is the resistance or the current that primarily affects the common mode gain, suggesting that controlling the current is key.
  • Another participant explains that the dynamic resistance of a current source is greater than that of a resistor, indicating that the current source can provide higher impedance.
  • A participant provides a formula for common mode voltage gain and discusses how maximizing the resistor Re minimizes this gain, linking it to the use of a constant current circuit to control bias current.
  • There is a reiteration of the relationship between bias current and the resistor Re, emphasizing that controlling the current can effectively increase the magnitude of Re.

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Participants express varying views on the relationship between resistance and current in the context of common mode gain, with some agreeing on the role of the constant current circuit while others seek clarification on the underlying mechanisms. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the precise nature of this relationship.

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Participants reference specific circuit configurations and theoretical concepts, but there are unresolved assumptions regarding the ideal behavior of current sources and the implications of varying input voltages on current distribution in the differential pair.

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In a differential amplifier in common mode, a constant current circuit is appended to emmitter part to increase the resistance Re. This results in a very low common signal amplification (which reduces noise in the ckt).

Why does a constant current circuit increase the resistance?
 
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If you use a real resistor of high resistance, you get way too much voltage drop. Instead, you can use a current sink (or source) circuit to generate the bias current, but still present a high impedance.
 
Then what we're trying to do is control the resultant current, and its not the resistance but the current that causes the common mode gain to be small?
 
chaoseverlasting said:
Then what we're trying to do is control the resultant current, and its not the resistance but the current that causes the common mode gain to be small?

Not sure I understand the question. The current is the total bias current for the diff pair. The splitting of the current by the diff pair is what gives differential gain, as the current is split unevenly by the difference in input voltages. If the input voltages are the same but varying, the current should not be different in the two sides of the diff pair.
 
chaoseverlasting said:
In a differential amplifier in common mode, a constant current circuit is appended to emmitter part to increase the resistance Re. This results in a very low common signal amplification (which reduces noise in the ckt).

Why does a constant current circuit increase the resistance?

The dynamic resistance. The dynamic resistance of a current source is greater than a resistor.

[tex]R_{dyn} = \frac{dE}{dI}[/tex]

For an ideal current souce, the voltage changes nothing for any change in current.
 
The common mode voltage gain is given by:

[tex]A_c=\frac{\beta R_c}{r_i +2(\beta +1)R_E}[/tex] (Boylestad, p.600)

To minimize this gain, its the resistor [tex]R_E[/tex] that we maximize.

The bias current also depends on this resistor:

[tex]I_c=\frac{1}{r_i+2(\beta +1)R_E}[/tex]

If we use a constant current circuit to control this current and minimize it, we effectively increase the magnitude of the resistor [tex]R_E[/tex] and that causes the common mode gain to be small. Is that right?

That is what I meant to say when I said that we use the current to control the gain.
 
Looks good to me, chaos.
 
Finally! :-p
 

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