How does a wave move along a rope?

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The discussion revolves around understanding the motion of a wave along a rope, specifically focusing on the behavior of a point on the wave as it propagates. Participants are exploring the dynamics of wave motion in a physical context.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants are questioning how a specific point on the wave, referred to as point P, behaves as the wave moves to the right. There are discussions about whether point P is a physical point on the rope or an imaginary point on the wave, leading to different interpretations of the problem.

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The conversation is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants have suggested that the ambiguity of the question could lead to confusion, while others are seeking clarification on the movement of point P in relation to the wave's propagation. There is a call for the original poster to share their answer to help clarify the discussion.

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Participants note that there is a lack of specific data provided in the problem, such as velocity or displacement, which complicates the ability to solve the question mathematically. The ambiguity surrounding the definition of point P is also a significant point of discussion.

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Please help. I'm having difficulty with this problem. My book offers an answer but no explanation. Thanks for helping.I have the answer if you guys want it.
 

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Note that the wave is moving to the right. Hence, translate the whole curve slightly to the right to determine where point P will eventually be.
 
Yes, but doesn't each point on the wave maintain it's position in the positive x direction? It's only the y component of each point which changes. Anyone else have any idea?
 
kudos213 said:
Yes, but doesn't each point on the wave maintain it's position in the positive x direction? It's only the y component of each point which changes. Anyone else have any idea?

Yes, the point P oscillates only in the y direction, so as the wave moves to the right, will point P move up or down?

~H
 
negative y hat
 
kudos213 said:
negative y hat

Yes, I suggest we let the OP finish of the question.

~H
 
word...i'm still new here i.e. learning the ropes. how could we mathematically solved this question?
 
kudos213 said:
word...i'm still new here i.e. learning the ropes. how could we mathematically solved this question?

You couldn't, there is no data given (velocity/ displacement / time).

~H
 
This question actually somewhat ambiguous, and as such the OP might get the wrong advice and answer.

Depending on how you interpret "point P", your answer will be different!
a] Point P is a physical point on the rope.
b] Point P is an imaginary point on the wave.

Pizzasky interpreted it as a], but others interpreted it as b].

I'm am 99.9% certain a] is correct. So, yes, follow Kudos and Hoot's guidance.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
This question actually somewhat ambiguous, and as such the OP might get the wrong advice and answer.

Depending on how you interpret "point P", your answer will be different!
a] Point P is a physical point on the rope.
b] Point P is an imaginary point on the wave.

Pizzasky interpreted it as a], but others interpreted it as b].

I'm am 99.9% certain a] is correct. So, yes, follow Kudos and Hoot's guidance.

The OP said they have the correct answer, it would be helpful if he/she could post it to clear the matter up. But I agree with Dave, it is an ambiguous question, I was assuming point P is a physical point on the wave.

~H
 
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if the wave is going to the right, then shouldn't the answer be c?
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maybe I am missing something
 
  • #12
skywolf said:
if the wave is going to the right, then shouldn't the answer be c?
...
maybe I am missing something

That is what we were discussing, I'll refer you to posts #4,5,6,7

~H
 
  • #13
The answer key gives choice C.

Anyone care to explain? Thank you all. :wink:
 
  • #14
OK. That clears up what they're asking. Point P is a physical point on the rope. Pretend it's a spot of paint.

Now, as the wave travels down the rope, how will that spot of paint move?

Think of this: the rope is tied off the right side to a lamppost. Your friend is off to the left, holding the rope, waving it up and down, creating the wave. (Note that the rope does not actually go anywhere - he can wave all he wants, but the rope will remain in our field of vision).

NOW what will the spot of paint do?
 
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