How Does Angular Momentum Conservation Apply to Rotational Systems?

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The discussion revolves around the application of angular momentum conservation in rotational systems, specifically focusing on the relationship between angular momentum with respect to different reference points. Participants are examining the validity of a method used to calculate angular momentum and questioning the assumptions behind the equations presented.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are analyzing the original poster's method of calculating angular momentum and questioning its correctness. There is a focus on the relationship between angular momentum with respect to different frames of reference and the implications of using non-inertial frames.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the original poster's approach. Some have pointed out that the method does not yield the expected results, while others are exploring the reasons behind this discrepancy. There is no explicit consensus yet, but the dialogue is probing deeper into the underlying principles of angular momentum.

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Participants are considering the implications of using equations that relate to non-inertial frames and the potential errors that may arise from such assumptions. The original poster's method appears to be challenged based on these considerations.

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I did it like this:

[tex]\vec{L}_{B \ wrt \ Ground} = \vec{L}_{B \ wrt \ A} + \vec{L}_{A \ wrt \ Ground}[/tex]

[tex]\vec{L}_{B \ wrt \ A} = \vec{L}_{B \ wrt \ Ground} - \vec{L}_{A \ wrt \ Ground}[/tex]

so

[tex]\vec{L}_{B \ wrt \ A} = mwd^2 \ - \ \frac{1}{4}mwd^2[/tex]

[tex]\vec{L}_{B \ wrt \ A} = \frac{3}{4}mwd^2[/tex]

why is my method wrong?
 

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hi cupid.callin! :smile:
cupid.callin said:
[tex]\vec{L}_{B \ wrt \ A} = \vec{L}_{B \ wrt \ Ground} - \vec{L}_{A \ wrt \ Ground}[/tex]

sorry, but this doesn't work at all :redface:

LA(B) = rAB x (vB - vA)

= (rOB - rOA) x ((vB - v0) - (vA - vA)) …

bits of that are the RHS of your equation, but that's all
 
Why is does not work,:cry:

Is it because the eqn i used relates velocity or acceleration of particle wrt to a non inertial particle or frame ? :confused:
 
why should it work? :confused:

it obviously doesn't work …

the RHS of your equation is rOB x vB - rOA x vA
 

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