How Does Confidence Impact Perceptions of Intelligence and Trust?

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The discussion revolves around Bertrand Russell's quote, highlighting the contrast between the overconfidence of the uninformed and the self-doubt of the knowledgeable. Participants express agreement with the idea that this dynamic has negative implications for society. There is contemplation about the nature of intelligence required for leadership, suggesting that emotional intelligence and confidence play significant roles in influencing others. The conversation touches on how confidence can be misleading, as it often correlates with ignorance, and how this can lead to dangerous outcomes when individuals with strong persuasive abilities sway public opinion without solid foundations. The concept of groupthink is also mentioned, indicating that certainty can lead to poor decision-making. Overall, the thread emphasizes the complexities of intelligence, confidence, and their impacts on societal leadership and decision-making.
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"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell

What is your take on that quote?
 
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I'm not entirely sure.
 
You never can say something is certain. I'm sure of that. :rolleyes:
 
Thats a really good quote... got to love Russell.

I would agree that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are doubtful (now i am wondering whether these are prerequisite qualities respectively, what do other people think?), and it definitely does have adverse effects on the world.

But saying "The trouble with the world is that..." kind of implies its the ONLY thing, which i would have to think about a lot longer to see if i agree with.

-Spoon
 
I think the problem is defining what (intelligence) one needs to run the world.
 
wolram said:
I think the problem is defining what (intelligence) one needs to run the world.

Some emotional intelligence. What needed is some confidence to sway masses of people.
 
avant-garde said:
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell

What is your take on that quote?

I wasn't familiar with that quote, and I'm grateful to be introduced to it. I've often felt very similar things myself, but not been able to express it so articulately!

A closely related point is that people tend to gather support according to their level of confidence because it is assumed to indicate their level of ability, but confidence can also be related to their level of ignorance.
 
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Some emotional intelligence. What needed is some confidence to sway masses of people.

We've seen people in the past sway masses (mmm, I come close to Godwin here...) and it wasn't always such a good thing...

I was out with some friends last night and one of them actually said something to the effect of 'he's such a great speaker, he could convince me to do anything'.
 
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vansesch, I've been held back by that very problem when trying to describe the current US political situation.
 
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you guys are talking about groupthink. Groupthinkers are usually very certain,
 
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Does confidence not require a certain level of cocksuredness? (if that is a word).

-Spoon
 
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A confident unscrupulous sales man would not need confidence in the product he was selling,
to buy from him one would have to inspect the goods very carefully.

I do not know how one would inspect a promise.
 
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