How Does Force Distribute Across Protrusions in a Symmetric Object?

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The discussion revolves around the distribution of force across protrusions in a symmetric object when a force is applied to its top surface. Participants explore the implications of this scenario within the context of Newton's laws of motion and the concept of rigid bodies, while also questioning the completeness and clarity of the original question.

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  • One participant proposes that if a 12 N force is evenly distributed over the top surface of the object, the force at each of the four protrusions could be calculated as (12/4)=3 N.
  • Another participant questions the context of the scenario, asking what is supporting the scales and whether the assembly is floating in space.
  • Several participants express skepticism about the original question, suggesting it may be incomplete or poorly framed, particularly regarding the implications of weight in a space environment.
  • One participant mentions that under the rigid body concept, it is not possible to determine the reactions at the chair legs in a statically indeterminate system.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need to apply Newton's laws of motion, highlighting the importance of understanding motion in the context of the question.
  • A later reply critiques the original question as odd, suggesting that it lacks necessary information for meaningful answers.

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Participants generally disagree on the validity and clarity of the original question, with multiple competing views on how to interpret the scenario. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the correct approach to the problem.

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Limitations include missing assumptions about the environment (e.g., whether the object is in space) and the implications of weight in such a context, which affect the ability to provide a definitive answer.

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Lets say you have a completely rigid blue-colored object shaped as shown below. The object had one wide protrusion on one side and four smaller protrusions on the other side. Everything is completely symmetric so that the weight would be evenly distributed. Let's say you press with 12 N of force on the top surface distributing the force completely evenly over this top surface. What would the individual force be at each of the four protrusions. Would it be (12/4)=3 N? Or would it have to be the same as the force applied to the top surface, namely 12 N?

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what is on the bottom of the scales? I mean, are the scales supported somehow, or is the pictured assembly floating in space?
 
@Djf321 do you know Newton's laws of motion.
 
Change Newtons into men. You have 12 men pushing on the top. How many men need to push on the bottom, spread out evenly, so that the blue thingy doesn't move?
 
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Djf321 said:
Lets say you have a completely rigid
this sounds suspicious. Actually under the rigid body concept you can not find floor's reactions applied to the chair legs (chair has 4 legs). This is called a statically indeterminate system
 
nothing is supposed to be under the scales. everything in space
 
Djf321 said:
nothing is supposed to be under the scales. everything in space
Apply Newton's laws of motion. With "motion" being the operative word.
 
Djf321 said:
nothing is supposed to be under the scales. everything in space
Then the question is either ridiculous or incomplete, but I'm betting strongly on ridiculous based on the wording. ("Weight" in space?)
 
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Djf321 said:
nothing is supposed to be under the scales. everything in space
Do the scales have mass...?

In either case, the answer is already "neither".
 
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Djf321 said:
So I have a PhD in physics specializing in experimental soft matter physics/optics
This is a very odd question for someone who claims to have your background. Furthermore, the question did not include the necessary information (such as, the object is in space) so that responders could give meaningful answers.

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