How does kinetic friction occur between two moving bodies?

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Kinetic friction occurs when two surfaces slide against each other, with molecular interactions at play, where surface irregularities act like hooks that must be overcome for movement. Friction always opposes relative motion between the surfaces in contact, and while it typically acts opposite to the direction of motion, this can vary based on the context of the forces involved. The discussion also touches on the relationship between friction and normal force, emphasizing that while friction is often treated as proportional to the normal force, this is an approximation rather than a fundamental principle. Additionally, the effect of surface area on friction is debated, with the consensus that friction is generally independent of surface area due to pressure adjustments. Overall, understanding friction involves both practical applications and theoretical considerations, highlighting its complexity in physics.
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parshyaa said:
A body slipping on a rough horizontal plane moves with a deceleration of 4m/s^2.

In this case we are taking kinetic friction as the reason for accelaration
But kinetic friction resist the relative motion, then what is wrong, if in this case its helping to accelarating

You said opposite things. First you say it is decelerating (slowing down; eventually to stop). Then you say it accelerating (speeding up). You are confusing yourself.
 
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parshyaa said:
In this case we are taking kinetic friction as the reason for accelaration
But kinetic friction resist the relative motion, then what is wrong, if in this case its helping to accelarating

Kinetic friction resists motion, that is correct.
The velocity is positive so Fkinetic friction is negative and so the acceleration is negative (=deceleration).

PS: Fkinetic friction is not a constant force. As soon as the velocity reaches zero Fkinetic friction becomes zero and is replaced by static friction. So Fkinetic friction cannot make the block accelerate in the opposite direction.
 
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If this fbd is correct then fk is in the direction of accelaration this is why i said its towards acceleration or more precisely its the reason for accelaration due to fbd, but why kinetic friction is helping to acc. In this case
 

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parshyaa said:
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If this fbd is correct then fk is in the direction of accelaration this is why i said its towards acceleration or more precisely its the reason for accelaration due to fbd, but why kinetic friction is helping to acc. In this case
The frictional force and the associated acceleration are both in the direction opposite to the relative motion. What is the problem?
 
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jbriggs444 said:
The frictional force and the associated acceleration are both in the direction opposite to the relative motion. What is the problem?
Yes you are right, my confusion has gone now

I could solve problem containing two or three surfaces but solving questions containing only two surfaces sometimes makes me confuse but now i am cleared
Thanks @jbriggs444 and @anorlunda
 

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