How Does Mathematical Theory Explain Multiple Wave Reflections?

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The discussion focuses on the mathematical theory behind multiple wave reflections, specifically how to derive the reflection coefficient R through a series of equations. The initial wave function and subsequent reflections are analyzed, leading to a geometric series representation of R. Participants identify mistakes in the manipulation of terms, particularly in the numerator and the factorization of terms involving transmission coefficients. The correct relationships between transmission and reflection coefficients are emphasized, particularly T12T21 = 1 - R12^2. The conversation concludes with a resolution on how to simplify the expression for R using these relationships.
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Homework Statement
Impedance ##Z_1, Z_3## are separated by ##Z_2## with a thickness ##L##.
##\psi_r = R\psi_i##
Show that the global reflection is ##R = \frac{R_{12} + R_{23}e^{-i2\omega L/v_2} }{ 1 + R_{12}R_{23}e^{-i2\omega L/v_2}}##
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##R_{12}## means the wave is reflected at the boundary between 1 and 2, moving from 1 to 2.
I know for a wave moving from left to right, ##\psi_i = Ae^{i(\omega t - k_1x)}##

The first reflection where ##Z_1## is ## R_{12}Ae^{i(\omega t - k_1x)}##

The second reflection. The wave moves from 2 to the limit between 2 and 3 then reflect...
Thus, ##T_{12}R_{23}T_{21} Ae^{i(\omega t - k_1 x - 2k_2 L)}##. Where ##L = \frac{\lambda_2}{4}## and ##\lambda_2 = \frac{2\pi}{k_2}## so ##2k_2 L = \pi##

The third time the wave comes to ##Z_1##. ##T_{12}R_{23}R_{21}R_{23}T_{21}e^{i(\omega t - k_1 x -i4k_2L)}##

We have ##R = R_{12} + T_{12}R_{23}T_{21}e^{-i2k_2 L} + T_{12}R_{23}R_{21}R_{23}T_{21}e^{-i4k_2 L} + ...##

##R = R_{12} + T_{12}R_{23}T_{21}e^{-i2k_2 L}(1 + R_{23}R_{21}e^{-i2k_2 L})##

##R = R_{12} + T_{12}R_{23}T_{21}e^{-i2k_2 L} \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} (R_{23}R_{21}e^{-i2k_2 L})^n##

##R = R_{12} + T_{12}R_{23}T_{21}e^{-i2k_2 L} \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} (-R_{23}R_{12}e^{-i2k_2 L})^n##

Using the geometric series

##R = \frac{R_{12} + T_{12}R_{23}T_{21}e^{-i2k_2 L}}{1 + R_{23}R_{12}e^{-i2k_2 L}}##

The dominator is right, but not the numerator. I really don't see where I made a mistake.
 
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Redwaves said:
We have ##R = R_{12} + T_{12}R_{23}T_{21}e^{-i2k_2 L} + T_{12}R_{23}R_{21}R_{23}T_{21}e^{-i4k_2 L} + ...##

##R = R_{12} + T_{12}R_{23}T_{21}e^{-i2k_2 L}(1 + R_{23}T_{21}e^{-i2k_2 L})##
There is a mistake in going from the first line to the second line where you factored out ##T_{12}R_{23}T_{21}e^{-i2k_2 L}##. Check the last term in the parentheses in the second line.
 
TSny said:
There is a mistake in going from the first line to the second line where you factored out ##T_{12}R_{23}T_{21}e^{-i2k_2 L}##. Check the last term in the parentheses in the second line.
It's a typo, I have ##R_{21}R_{23}## on my sheet. For some reason, I don't have any more preview while I type. It's the second term that shouldn't have the T's
 
Redwaves said:
##R = R_{12} + T_{12}R_{23}T_{21}e^{-i2k_2 L} \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} (-R_{23}R_{12}e^{-i2k_2 L})^n##
This looks good.

Redwaves said:
Using the geometric series

##R = \frac{R_{12} + T_{12}R_{23}T_{21}e^{-i2k_2 L}}{1 + R_{23}R_{12}e^{-i2k_2 L}}##

The dominator is right, but not the numerator. I really don't see where I made a mistake.
Shouldn't this be $$R = R_{12} + \frac{T_{12}R_{23}T_{21}e^{-i2k_2 L}}{1 + R_{23}R_{12}e^{-i2k_2 L}}$$
You should be able to reduce this to the result stated in the problem. You will need to know the relation between ##T_{12}## and ##T_{21}## and the relation between ##T_{12}^2## and ##R_{12}^2##. [EDIT: I should have said that you need the relation between ##T_{12}T_{21}## and ##R_{12}^2##]
 
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I don't know if that is what you mean.
##T_{12} = 1 + R_{12}, T_{21} = 1 + R_{21} = 1 - R_{12}##
However, I have ##1 - R_{12}^2##
 
Redwaves said:
##T_{12} = 1 + R_{12}, T_{21} = 1 + R_{21} = 1 - R_{12}##

Using these relations, what do you get for ##T_{12}T_{21}## expressed in terms of ##R_{12}##?
 
I get 1 - ##R_{12}^2##
 
Redwaves said:
I get 1 - ##R_{12}^2##
OK.

Using ##T_{12}T_{21} = 1-R_{12}^2## you should be able to reduce ##R = R_{12} + \large \frac{T_{12}R_{23}T_{21}e^{-i2k_2 L}}{1 + R_{23}R_{12}e^{-i2k_2 L}}## to the desired result.
 
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Thanks! My issue was that I had put##R_{12}## on the same denominator right after the geometric series.
 
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