How Does Mixing Affect Entropy Calculations in Chemical Reactions?

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Mixing effects significantly influence entropy calculations in chemical reactions, particularly when using standard molar entropies. The example of the reaction N2 + 3 H2 --> 2 NH3 illustrates that calculating entropy changes without considering the initial mixing state can lead to inaccuracies. However, it is clarified that standard entropy and free energy changes already account for the entropy of mixing through the use of a van't Hoff equilibrium box. Thus, the initial assumption that these calculations yield an inflated entropy change is incorrect. Proper understanding of these principles is essential for accurate thermodynamic assessments in chemistry.
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I know this is more of a chemistry question but it's come to this I'm afraid.
When calculating entropy changes in chemical reactions sometimes we students of chemistry use standard molar entropies of the reactants and products. But this surely doesn't account for the mixing effect. e.g.
N2 + 3 H2 --> 2 NH3
calculating the entropy change reaction for this using standard molar entropies would surely yield an entropy change too large because the reactants would in fact start off mixed, thus at a higher entropy than just the N2 and 3 H2 together.
 
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tomothy said:
I know this is more of a chemistry question but it's come to this I'm afraid.
When calculating entropy changes in chemical reactions sometimes we students of chemistry use standard molar entropies of the reactants and products. But this surely doesn't account for the mixing effect. e.g.
N2 + 3 H2 --> 2 NH3
calculating the entropy change reaction for this using standard molar entropies would surely yield an entropy change too large because the reactants would in fact start off mixed, thus at a higher entropy than just the N2 and 3 H2 together.
This is not true. The standard entropy change and the standard free energy change are based on the use of a van't Hopf equilibrium box, which inherently includes entropy of mixing.
 
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