How does the formula C-6 come about in the following image?

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The discussion revolves around the derivation and understanding of the formula C-6, particularly in the context of superposition and Fourier transformations as applied to partial differential equations (PDEs). Participants explore the mathematical representation of wave superpositions and their implications in physics.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants mention the principle of superposition and its role in summing independent solutions, but seek clarification on why the superposition takes a specific form, such as a Fourier transform.
  • There is a reference to the use of Fourier transformations in the context of PDEs, with some participants expressing familiarity with Fourier transforms but not their application to PDEs.
  • A participant provides mathematical expressions for superpositions of plane waves, illustrating how a discrete sum can transition to an integral over a continuous distribution of wave vectors.
  • It is noted that the extra constant in front of equation C-6 is described as a normalization factor, though its specific role is not fully clarified.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the relationship between superposition and Fourier transforms, with some seeking clarification while others provide mathematical insights. No consensus is reached on the specific reasoning behind the form of C-6.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of detailed explanations regarding the assumptions behind the transition from discrete to continuous wave representations and the specific nature of the normalization factor mentioned.

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Via the principle of superposition ... where did it lose you?
C-6 is just summing up all the independent solutions already found...
 
Do you know anything about Fourier transformation and how you can use it for PDEs?
 
Simon Bridge said:
Via the principle of superposition ... where did it lose you?
C-6 is just summing up all the independent solutions already found...
I meant why does the superposition look like this? i.e. a Fourier transform?
 
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dextercioby said:
Do you know anything about Fourier transformation and how you can use it for PDEs?
I do know about Fourier transforms but am not familiar with their relation to PDEs
 
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weezy said:
I meant why does the superposition look like this?

A superposition of two plane waves looks like this: $$\psi(\vec r, t) = g_1 e^{i(\vec k_1 \cdot \vec r - \omega_1 t)} + g_2 e^{i(\vec k_2 \cdot \vec r - \omega_2 t)}$$
A superposition of infinitely many (but still "countable" 1,2,3...) plane waves looks like this: $$\psi(\vec r, t) = \sum_{j=0}^\infty g_j e^{i(\vec k_j \cdot \vec r - \omega_j t)}$$
Suppose the ##\omega_j## and the ##\vec k_j## can be related by ("fitted to") a continuous function ##\omega(\vec k)##. Likewise for the ##g_j## and the ##\vec k_j##, with another function ##g(\vec k)##. Then we can rewrite this slightly as $$\psi(\vec r, t) = \sum_{j=0}^\infty g(\vec k_j) e^{i(\vec k_j \cdot \vec r - \omega(\vec k_j) t)}$$
Finally, suppose we have a superposition of an "uncountably" infinite number of waves with a continuous (not discrete) distribution of values of ##\vec k##. In this case the sum becomes an integral: $$\psi(\vec r, t) = \int g(\vec k) e^{i(\vec k \cdot \vec r - \omega(\vec k) t)} d^3 k$$
This is a sort of "volume integral" in 3-dimensional ##\vec k##-space. The extra constant in front of your equation C-6 is basically a sort of normalization factor.
 
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