How Does the Pauli-Lujanski Tensor Relate to Gauge Invariance?

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I want to proof that
[M\mu\nu,W\sigma]=i(g\nu\sigmaW\mu-g\mu\sigmaW\nu)
I can reduce this expression but I can't find the correctly answer.
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You mean the Pauli-Lubanski vector. You can grind through a lot of algebra to show this, but actually there's nothing to prove. It's an identity!

Mμν is the 4-dimensional rotation operator, and consequently [Mμν, Vσ] = i(gνσVμ - gμσVν) for any 4-vector Vμ.
 
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Thanks!
 
thalisjg said:
I want to proof that
[M\mu\nu,W\sigma]=i(g\nu\sigmaW\mu-g\mu\sigmaW\nu)
I can reduce this expression but I can't find the correctly answer.
Thanks!


Sandwitch W_{ \mu } between U = \exp ( - i \omega_{ \mu \nu } J^{ \mu \nu } / 2 ) and U^{ \dagger }:
<br /> U^{ \dagger } W_{ \mu } U = \frac{ 1 }{ 2 } \epsilon_{ \mu \nu \rho \sigma } U^{ \dagger } J^{ \nu \rho } U U^{ \dagger } P^{ \sigma } U .<br />
Now, use the transformation rules
<br /> U^{ \dagger } J^{ \nu \rho } U = \Lambda^{ \nu }{}_{ \lambda } \Lambda^{ \rho }{}_{ \eta } J^{ \lambda \eta } ,<br />
U^{ \dagger } P^{ \sigma } U = \Lambda^{ \sigma }{}_{ \delta } P^{ \delta } ,
and the identity
<br /> \epsilon_{ \mu \nu \rho \sigma } \Lambda^{ \nu }{}_{ \lambda } \Lambda^{ \rho }{}_{ \eta } \Lambda^{ \sigma }{}_{ \delta } = \Lambda_{ \mu }{}^{ \gamma } \epsilon_{ \gamma \lambda \eta \delta } ,<br />
you get
U^{ \dagger } W_{ \mu } U = \Lambda_{ \mu }{}^{ \nu } W_{ \nu } .
Write the infinitesimal version of this.

Sam
 
samalkhaiat said:
you get
U^{ \dagger } W_{ \mu } U = \Lambda_{ \mu }{}^{ \nu } W_{ \nu } .
Write the infinitesimal version of this.
Again, this simply states the obvious fact that Wμ is a vector.
 
Bill_K said:
Again, this simply states the obvious fact that Wμ is a vector.

I believe that proving that “obvious fact” is not trivial at all. Bellow is my reasons why:

i) Having single space-time index does not guarantee the vector nature of an object.

ii) The presence of the \epsilon symbol in the definition of W_{ \mu }.

iii) In QFT, both P_{ \mu } and J_{ \mu \nu } will have contributions from the gauge potential which itself is not a genuine vector.

iv) Young researchers should learn about the tricks of the trade and use them to prove as many “obvious facts” as they possibly can.

Sam
 
samalkhaiat said:
I believe that proving that “obvious fact” is not trivial at all. Bellow is my reasons why:

i) Having single space-time index does not guarantee the vector nature of an object.
Well, most of the time it does. The vector potential A_{ \mu } in a gauge theory is the only exception I can think of, and even then only gauge-dependent results are sensitive to this issue.

samalkhaiat said:
ii) The presence of the \epsilon symbol in the definition of W_{ \mu }.
The \epsilon symbol is invariant under any Lorentz transformation that does not involve time reversal.

samalkhaiat said:
iii) In QFT, both P_{ \mu } and J_{ \mu \nu } will have contributions from the gauge potential which itself is not a genuine vector.
P_{ \mu } and J_{ \mu \nu } depend only on the field strength F_{ \mu\nu }, which is a genuine tensor.

samalkhaiat said:
iv) Young researchers should learn about the tricks of the trade and use them to prove as many “obvious facts” as they possibly can.
I fully agree with this one! :)
 
Avodyne said:
Well, most of the time it does. The vector potential A_{ \mu } in a gauge theory is the only exception I can think of

One exception is enough to make the proof of the statement non-trivial.

and even then only gauge-dependent results are sensitive to this issue.

Do you think that P^{ \mu } and J^{ \mu \nu } are gauge invariant operators? :)

The \epsilon symbol is invariant under any Lorentz transformation that does not involve time reversal.

I expressed this fact by writing the explicit transformation law for \epsilon symbol. Students need to know this guy is invariant, don’t they?

P_{ \mu } and J_{ \mu \nu } depend only on the field strength F_{ \mu\nu }, which is a genuine tensor.

Without the use of the field equations ( off-shell), the canonical P^{ \mu } & J^{ \mu \nu } both depend on the gauge potential.

Sam
 
samalkhaiat said:
One exception is enough to make the proof of the statement non-trivial.
Agreed!

samalkhaiat said:
Do you think that P^{ \mu } and J^{ \mu \nu } are gauge invariant operators? :)
The "improved", Belinfante versions are indeed gauge invariant.
 
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Avodyne said:
The "improved", Belinfante versions are indeed gauge invariant.

As a matter of fact, Bellinfante procedure is possible because it does not affect the Poincare’ charges ( P^{ \mu }, J^{ \mu \nu } ). It only add a total divergence to the Poincare’ (canonical) currents, ( T^{ \mu \nu }, J^{ \mu \nu \rho } ), leaving P^{ \mu } and J^{ \mu \nu } unchanged.
I can state (and prove on general grounds) the following claim:
“Even in a gauge invariant theory, the energy-momentum vector and the angular momentum tensor cannot be invariant under the c-number gauge transformations of the theory”.

Sam
 
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