How Far Will Springs Compress Under Load?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the compression of two springs under a load of 2250 N, with each spring having a spring constant of 2200 N/m. The initial calculations using energy principles yielded a compression of 1.01 m, while applying Hooke's law indicated a compression of 1.02 m for one spring. Clarifications were made that the springs are arranged in parallel, effectively doubling the spring constant to 4400 N/m, leading to a final compression of 0.5 m for the system. Participants debated the interpretation of the compression value and its relevance to the problem. Ultimately, the correct compression value for the springs under the specified load is confirmed to be 0.5 m.
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Given: Load of sacks have total weight of 2250 N and each sack weighs 225 N, how far will each of 2 springs in one system be compressed (spring coeff = 2200 N/m) when a sack is put on it?


Energy init +work=final Energy

2250=1/2(4400)x^2
1.02=x^2
x=1.01

Not sure where to go from here.
 
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Mebmt said:
Given: Load of sacks have total weight of 2250 N and each sack weighs 225 N, how far will each of 2 springs in one system be compressed (spring coeff = 2200 N/m) when a sack is put on it?

Energy init +work=final Energy
I wouldn't use energy. There is another (even simpler) spring relation that I would use. BTW, I don't know what the problem means by "one system".
 
Then using Us=1/2kx^2
I have 1/2(2200)x^2=2250
x=1.43

One system meaning that there are 2 springs working identically to each other.
 
Is there a reason why you can't use Hooke's law?



Mebmt said:
One system meaning that there are 2 springs working identically to each other.
I still don't know what that means.
 
Using Hooke's law Fs=-kx
2250N=(-2200N/m)x
x=1.02m
1.02m/2 springs =0.5 m
 
Mebmt said:
2250N=(-2200N/m)x
x=1.02m
What is the meaning of this x value? Can you interpret it physically?
 
The x value is the total amount that the springs would be compressed by a force of 2250 N.
 
Mebmt said:
The x value is the total amount that the springs would be compressed by a force of 2250 N.
And is that the condition that the problem is asking for?
 
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I didn't post the picture of the springs. It shows them as being parallel to each other with a platform on top. Sorry. My bad. I should be using them together. The link helped as well.

Now, using Fspring=-kx
2250=(-)(2200+2200)x
x=0.5 m
 
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Mebmt said:
Now, using Fspring=-kx
2250=(-)(2200+2200)x
x=0.5 m
I ask again, is that the x that the problem is asking for? Hint: it has the same interpretation as the last time I asked.
 
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Yes, they are asking for x.
 
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Mebmt said:
Yes, they are asking for x.
Nope.
 
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