How Is Charge Distributed in a Conductor with an Internal Cavity?

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In an isolated conductor with a net charge of +10×10^-6 C and a point charge of +3×10^-6 C inside a cavity, the charge on the cavity wall is -3×10^-6 C. The charge on the outer surface is calculated as the net charge of the conductor minus the charge on the cavity wall, resulting in +13×10^-6 C. The discussion clarifies that the charge on the cavity wall exists regardless of the Gaussian surface drawn, which is used to analyze the charge distribution. It emphasizes that within the conducting material, the electric field is zero, leading to zero net charge enclosed by any Gaussian surface within it. This understanding reinforces the principles of electrostatics in conductors and the behavior of electric fields.
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1. The Question
An isolated conductor of arbitrary shape has a net charge of +10\times10^{-6}C. Inside the conductor is a cavity within which is a point charge q = +3\times10^{-6}C. What is the charge on the outer surface of the conductor?


2. The attempt at a solution
On cavity wall: q=-q=-3\times10^{-6}C
On outer surface: Net Charge + Charge Inside Cavity =+13\times10^{-6}C


3. The problem I encounter
All books I have read say that to calculate on the outer surface it's the net charge minus the charge on cavity wall. Why is it this and not how I did it which is Net Charge + Charge Inside Cavity? Surely, the charge on the cavity wall is only there when we draw the Gaussian surface.
 
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3. The problem I encounter
All books I have read say that to calculate on the outer surface it's the net charge minus the charge on cavity wall. Why is it this and not how I did it which is Net Charge + Charge Inside Cavity?
Net charge on the conductor equals the sum of the charges on its inner and outer surfaces, Qnet = Qouter + Qinner. But Qinner + Qcavity = 0, thus Qinner = -Qcavity. Thus subtracting the inner charge is the same thing as adding the enclosed charge.
Surely, the charge on the cavity wall is only there when we draw the Gaussian surface.
Drawing the Gaussian surface allows you to deduce the charge on the inner surface, it doesn't create the charge. The charge doesn't know anything about what you draw or don't draw!
 
Is the charge enclosed in the Gaussian Surface zero or q = +3\times10^{-6}C?
 
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Is the charge enclosed in the Gaussian Surface zero or q = +3\times10^{-6}C?
That depends on where you draw your Gaussian surface. Assuming your Gaussian surface is within the conducting material, then the net charge enclosed will be zero.

On the other hand, if you drew a Gaussian surface in the cavity but surrounding the point charge, the charge enclosed will equal that point charge.
 
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That depends on where you draw your Gaussian surface. Assuming your Gaussian surface is within the conducting material, then the net charge enclosed will be zero.

On the other hand, if you drew a Gaussian surface in the cavity but surrounding the point charge, the charge enclosed will equal that point charge.


So, Am I correct to think that between the Cavity wall and the end of the conducting material, there is no field because charge enclosed is zero hence deriving the electric field through Gauss law would give zero electric field?
 
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So, Am I correct to think that between the Cavity wall and the end of the conducting material, there is no field because charge enclosed is zero hence deriving the electric field through Gauss law would give zero electric field?
I would look at it the other way around. Since everywhere within the conducting material the electrostatic field is zero, any Gaussian surface contained within the conducting material must enclose zero net charge.
 
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