Classical How is Jackson’s Electrodynamics taught during undergraduate?

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In various countries, such as Argentina and Germany, undergraduate physics curricula differ significantly from the typical American approach, where Jackson's Electrodynamics is usually reserved for graduate studies. Instead, some institutions allow students to transition directly from introductory courses like Resnick-Halliday to Jackson, raising concerns about the development of physical intuition and potential knowledge gaps. For instance, a German BSc program indicates that students complete 13 years of education before tackling Jackson, suggesting a stronger foundational background. In Croatia, students use a mix of texts, including Jackson and Griffiths, but often have no electrodynamics courses in their second year. Overall, the structure and pacing of physics degrees vary widely, impacting how students engage with complex topics like electrodynamics.
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I’ve heard that in some countries (for example, Argentina), the curriculum is structured differently from the typical American program. In the U.S., students usually take a general physics course first, then move on to a textbook like Griffiths, and only encounter Jackson at the graduate level. In contrast, in those countries students go through a general physics course (such as Resnick-Halliday) and then proceed directly to Jackson. If the slower, more gradual approach is considered important for developing intuition, how do students in this system build that intuition? Doesn’t this approach risk leaving gaps in their knowledge, or result in students being able to solve problems without a real physical understanding of what they are doing?
 
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gfgfgf said:
... In contrast, in those countries students go through a general physics course (such as Resnick-Halliday) and then proceed directly to Jackson. ...
Can you please cite some specific universities and their curricula that explicitly demonstrate that Halliday and Resnick (typically used as a text for freshman physics majors) is followed by Jackson E&M (typically used for first-year physics graduate students).
 
renormalize said:
Can you please cite some specific universities and their curricula that explicitly demonstrate that Halliday and Resnick (typically used as a text for freshman physics majors) is followed by Jackson E&M (typically used for first-year physics graduate students).
Different country but I found this from Germany: https://www.physes.uni-leipzig.de/f...20915_BSc-IPSP-3years_module-descriptions.pdf
 
Muu9 said:
That’s a 3 year BSc curriculum. In Germany students have had 13 years of education and they’ve already learned calculus and the equivalent of something like Halliday and Resnick. The material is basically the same in most countries, the structure of the educational system is different.
 
In my case (Zagreb, Croatia) at the first year we used the Berkeley course, and then at the third year the lectures on electrodynamics was a mixture of several books, including Jackson, Landau-Lifshitz and Griffiths.
 
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Demystifier said:
In my case (Zagreb, Croatia) at the first year we used the Berkeley course, and then at the third year the lectures on electrodynamics was a mixture of several books, including Jackson, Landau-Lifshitz and Griffiths.
What about the second year?
 
Muu9 said:
What about the second year?
No electrodynamics at all.
 
Demystifier said:
No electrodynamics at all.
What are your thoughts on the way your degree was structured and paced?
 
Muu9 said:
What about the second year?
I would be surprised if there is a degree where electrodynamics is taught every year.
 
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Demystifier said:
In my case (Zagreb, Croatia) at the first year we used the Berkeley course, and then at the third year the lectures on electrodynamics was a mixture of several books, including Jackson, Landau-Lifshitz and Griffiths.
Same at Caltech in the late 1970s, but I think EM was just Jackson.
 
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Muu9 said:
What are your thoughts on the way your degree was structured and paced?
A few easy courses were structured so that I learned absolutely nothing there, but most of the courses were ok. All in all, I am satisfied.
 
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