How is Velocity Calculated in Lorentz Force Spectrometry?

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In Lorentz Force Spectrometry, the velocity of a particle with mass m and charge q in an electric field of potential Vd can be influenced by the sign of the charge, as positive charges will have positive velocity and negative charges will have negative velocity. The discussion raises the need to consider vector components and angles of incidence to fully understand the particle's motion through the electric field. The participant seeks clarification on the relationship between velocity, mass, and charge, particularly how negatively charged particles are treated in comparison to positively charged ones. The ultimate goal is to connect the time taken for ions to reach the detector with their mass-to-charge ratio in mass spectrometry. Understanding these dynamics is crucial for accurately interpreting results in mass spectrometry applications.
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If a particle of mass m and charge q (where q can be negative or positive, and the velocity should be positive if q is positive and negative if q is negative) is passed through an electric field of potential Vd, what is the velocity v of the particle?

Or possibly this should be a vector problem? Maybe I need to specify some angles? If you'd take me through what's going on here I'd be grateful, and if there are some angles of incidence I should have given but didn't then please give them algebraic letters anyway and proceed.
 
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If a particle of mass m and charge q (where q can be negative or positive, and the velocity should be positive if q is positive and negative if q is negative) is passed through an electric field of potential Vd, what is the velocity v of the particle?

Or possibly this should be a vector problem? Maybe I need to specify some angles? If you'd take me through what's going on here I'd be grateful, and if there are some angles of incidence I should have given but didn't then please give them algebraic letters anyway and proceed.

What is the context of your question? Is this for schoolwork? What references are you using so far to understand the Lorentz force?
 
No I'm asking this question for my own understanding. The topic is mass spectrometry and my reference so far is this document:

http://www.whoi.edu/cms/files/Lecture6_2011_96624.pdf

Everything makes sense except for the velocity as a function of mass, V and charge expression. And in general, the problem I see with the whole thing is that it would appear to treat negatively charged particles the same way as positively charged particles (either that, or say that they have the same velocity).
 
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My final goal is to figure out how, in a mass spectrometer, we can transform the time taken for each ion to reach the detector, into the mass/charge value for that ion.
 
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