How long does it take for a falling particle to reach the halfway point?

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A particle falling from a great height requires approximately 9/11 of the total fall time to reach the halfway point, according to a discussion involving gravitational effects. The motion of the particle is described using the equation h = D - (1/2)gt², leading to the conclusion that the time to reach the ground is t₀ = √(2D/g). The time to reach halfway is calculated as t(D/2) = √(D/g), resulting in a ratio of t(D/2)/t₀ = 1/√2, which is about 0.707, not 9/11. However, when considering the inverse square law of gravity, more complex integrals are necessary to accurately determine the time ratios. The discussion highlights the importance of energy conservation and integral calculus in solving the problem.
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I had this question in class the other day and need some help:

A particle falls to Earth starting from rest at a great height. Neglecting air resistance, show that the particle requires about 9/11 of the total time of fall to traverse the first half of the distance.

Anything would be appreciated.

Thanks!
 
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That is a very hard thing to show... because it is not correct.


The equation of motion for a falling body, starting from height D is:

h = D - \frac 1 2 g t^2

so the time to reach the ground is

t_0 = \sqrt { \frac { 2 D} g }

The time to reach the half way point is:

\frac D 2 = D - \frac 1 2 g t^2

or

t_{\frac D 2} = \sqrt {\frac D g }

So

\frac {t_{\frac D 2}} {t_0} = \frac 1 {\sqrt 2} = .707

this is not \frac 9 {11}
 
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Integral,

When the problem states "from a great height" I interpret that as meaning the inverse square behavior of gravity must be taken into account. Ultimately, this means comparing

\int_{1/2}^{1} \frac {dr}{\sqrt{ \frac {1}{r} -1}}

with

\int_{0}^{1} \frac {dr}{\sqrt{ \frac {1}{r} -1}}

which works out to about 9/11.
 
Ok,
That makes sense.
 
Thank you both.
I was pursuing Integral's method at first before running into the same problem. I agree with Tide's reasoning but I don't follow how you got to that integral, and even more so how I would solve that integral. Could you help with that?
Thanks
 
Slick,

Energy will be conserved so we can relate speed with position:

v = \sqrt { 2GM \left( \frac {1}{r} - \frac {1}{r_0} \right)

But v = \frac {dr}{dt} so we can integrate the equation and find

t = \frac {1}{\sqrt {2GM}} \int_{r}^{r_0} \frac {dr'}{\sqrt { \frac {1}{r'} - \frac {1}{r_0}}}

Use r = 0 to get the full time to fall and r = r_0/2 to get the time to fall halfway. It is helpful to use a new variable of integration given by r/r_0. The rest of the problem reduces to getting approximations for the integrals though the integral from 0 to 1 reduces to something called a Beta Function (with a little effort you can cast it into a form that you can look up in integral tables) and the integral from 1/2 to 1 is reduces to an Incomplete Beta Function and you might have to use a numerical approxiimation to evaluate it. Some graphing calculators will do them both numerically for you.
 
Ohhh, ok. Thank you Tide, much appreciated. I just missed that leap from setting up the integral to what you posted I guess. Thanks everyone.
 
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