How many Rb atoms to fit on a 9Cm^2 square?

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The discussion centers on calculating how many rubidium (Rb) atoms can fit on a 9 cm² square. Participants explore the atomic radius of Rb, which is approximately 2.475 x 10^-8 cm, and discuss the need to account for empty spaces between atoms in their calculations. There is confusion regarding the geometric arrangement of atoms, with suggestions to use parallelograms instead of triangles for more accurate area calculations. The conversation also touches on the need for visual aids, with requests for diagrams to clarify the concepts. Ultimately, one participant reports successfully solving the problem after extensive deliberation.
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3. The radius of one Rb atom is 4.95/2 time 10^-8 cm, we calculate the area then divide 9 into the area of one atom, we get the number of atoms, why is 4.7 x 10^15 atoms wrong?
 

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There are empty spaces between the atoms - they need more space than just pi*r2.
 
exactly my thought, how to calculate that?!
 
Does this sketch help?
 

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excellent, i solved the first one, but the second one I'm not really sure how to calculate the side of the triangle that's enclosing one atom!
 
You can draw an equilateral triangle in the lattice.
 
yes but it looks like it's side is longer than the diameter, how to calculate it's length?!
 
no wait, the triangles do not work, they overlap! parallelograms work! how to calculate the area of a parallelogram using it's sides?
 
Then you are drawing the wrong triangles. Use the centers of the atoms, this is easier. Afterwards, find out how many atoms per triangle (or triangles per atom) you have.
 
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can u please draw a diagram like u did with the first one?
 
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Can you show your diagram?
 
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i don't know to how to draw this, using what program?
 
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Every drawing program can draw lines. Windows always comes with Paint, for example.
 
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pffffft I've been thinking about this problem for far too long I'm at my wits end, i really need to stop wasting my time with this and study, i feel nervous already cause i wasted so much time, please give me a more strong hint, save me some time, thank you
 
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solved it
 
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