How mass affects projectile motion

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the effects of mass on the projectile motion of ping-pong balls launched from a vacuum cannon. Participants explore the relationship between mass, air resistance, and the distance traveled by the projectile, with a focus on determining the optimal mass for maximum distance.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • Jason notes that adding mass to the ping-pong ball significantly increases the distance it travels, suggesting a relationship between mass and air resistance.
  • One participant agrees that air resistance is a key factor and discusses the complexities of calculating air drag, highlighting the competing forces of mass and cannon force in determining acceleration.
  • Another participant speculates that the density of a golf ball might provide a useful reference for determining an optimal mass, acknowledging the additional complexities of golf ball design.
  • A different participant emphasizes the importance of experimentation in engineering, suggesting that the method of adding weight could affect the ball's trajectory due to potential imbalances.
  • This participant also recommends plotting a curve of distance versus weight to estimate the optimal mass based on experimental results.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the relationship between mass and projectile motion, with no consensus reached on the optimal mass or the best approach to determine it. Multiple competing ideas regarding the influence of air resistance and experimental methods remain present.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexities involved in calculating air resistance and the potential impact of how mass is added to the ping-pong ball, indicating that these factors may not be easily defined or accounted for in theoretical models.

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Hi, I am a mechanical engineering student and I am currently taking Dynamics.

We have been assigned a project that basically revolves around the dynamics of a vacuum cannon. The cannon we have designed shoots ping-pong balls and we have found that shooting the balls without any added mass will make the ball travel in random directions and go a short distance. We also found that when mass was added it shot over a 100 yards. I can only assume that is due to the balls mass and its relationship with air resistance.

Basically my question is how can I determine the optimal mass of the ping-pong ball to make it travel the furthest distance.

Anything would help because I am having trouble finding thing online.

Thanks A Lot

-Jason
 
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I think you are right is saying that air resistance is the key factor here. Air drag can be quite complicated to calculate from first principles. Here is a wikipedia link to get started:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_(physics)

You have two extremes. On the one hand is the ping pong ball with low mass. By Newton's second law we know that a = F/m. Since the air drag does not depend on the mass of the ball, the lower the mass the higher the acceleration (or deceleration).

On the other hand if your mass is too large, the force of the cannon is the limiting factor. Again a = F/m (where F is the force from the cannon), but now you want to maximize the acceleration.

These are the two competing forces in play. The latter should be easy to measure (maybe start by measuring the speed out of the cannon). The former is more difficult due to the complex nature of air drag, but you might be able to get some estimates based on average speed, time in flight and get some bounds around its magnitude.
 
I would guess (and it is a guess, not being a golfer myself) - that a golf ball probably has the density it has to maximise this very problem. Maybe that would be a good starting point? Of course, golf balls have more complicated surface patterns with dimples and whatnot, but might give you a ballpark figure.

,Simon
 
This kind of problem gets to the heart of what engineering is all about. Perform experiments based on theoretical knowledge only to find out that many additional factors come into play that you may or may not be able to readily define or account for. Example: depending on how you add weight to the ping pong ball, you could get strange rotations of the ball (due to imbalance) after it is launched that will affect the trajectory. Refine the experiments based on observed behavior (and engineering judgement). Plot a curve of distance vs weight and estimate the optimal situation based on the shape of the curve.

I think the golf ball (SimonRoberts) is a great example. It was no doubt refined over years of trials. Often the theoretical understanding comes alongside or even after the experimentation.
 

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