How much energy a photon has to have the momentum of a 10MeV proton

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The discussion revolves around determining the energy a photon must possess to match the momentum of a 10-MeV proton. The subject area includes concepts from special relativity and particle physics.

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  • The original poster seeks guidance on how to approach the problem. Some participants reference relevant formulas from special relativity, while others express confusion regarding the relationship between energy, momentum, and rest mass. There are questions about the interpretation of the 10-MeV value, whether it refers to total energy or kinetic energy.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some have provided formulas that could be useful, while others are questioning the assumptions made about the energy of the proton and its implications for the photon.

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Participants are navigating potential misunderstandings regarding the definitions of energy in the context of high-energy particles and the implications of relativistic momentum equations. There is uncertainty about whether the 10-MeV figure is kinetic energy or total energy.

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How much energy must a photon have if it is to have the same momentum of a 10-MeV proton?

I am not sure how to go about starting this one. Can someone help me out?
 
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Good general formula to know in SR:

[tex]E^2 = m^2 c^4 + p^2 c^2[/tex]

Where E is the energy, m is the rest mass, and p is the relativistic momentum. You can see that for p=0 this reduces to E=mc^2. And for a photon, the rest mass m is zero, so this reduces to E=pc.

Meanwhile, for a particle with nonzero rest mass, the relativistic momentum is given by [tex]p = \gamma mv[/tex], where v is the velocity and [tex]\gamma = 1/\sqrt{1 - v^2/c^2}[/tex]

If you know a proton's rest mass m and energy E, you should be able to use these formulas to find its momentum...
 
so E^2 = m^2c^4+p^2c^2

my E^2 is less than my m^2c^4(the 10MeV is less than the mc^2 for a proton) so my p^2c^2 turns out negative. What am I doing wrong?
 
anyone?
 
First of all find the momentum of proton having energy 10-MeV, using the formula
p = sqrt(2mE) where m is the mass of the proton. Then using E = pc find the energy of the photon.
 
Where did you get p = sqrt(2mE)?
 
ckp said:
Where did you get p = sqrt(2mE)?
p = mv
p^2 = m^2v^2
= 2*m*1/2*m*v^2
= 2*m*E
So p = sqrt(2mE)
 
ckp said:
so E^2 = m^2c^4+p^2c^2

my E^2 is less than my m^2c^4(the 10MeV is less than the mc^2 for a proton) so my p^2c^2 turns out negative. What am I doing wrong?
Maybe 10 MeV refers to the kinetic energy, which is just the total energy minus the rest mass energy? I'm not sure what the convention when talking about high-energy particles. But it works out that [tex]E^2 = m^2 c^4 + p^2 c^2[/tex] is equivalent to [tex]E = \gamma mc^2[/tex], so the kinetic energy is [tex]KE = (\gamma - 1) mc^2[/tex].
 

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