How Much More Energy to Accelerate a Car from 30 to 60 km/h?

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The discussion focuses on the energy required to accelerate a car from 30 to 60 km/h compared to accelerating from 0 to 30 km/h. It clarifies that the kinetic energy formula, K = 1/2 mv^2, must be applied correctly to find the differences in energy. The correct calculation shows that the energy needed to accelerate from 30 to 60 km/h is three times greater than from 0 to 30 km/h. Participants emphasize the importance of calculating the change in kinetic energy rather than simply using the velocity differences. Understanding these principles is crucial for solving such physics problems accurately.
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Homework Statement


The chemical potential energy in gasoline is converted to kinetic energy in cars. If a car accelerates from zero to 60 km/h, compared to the energy necessary to increase the velocity of the car from zero to 30 km/h the energy necessary to increase the velocity of the car from 30 to 60 km/h is:


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K = 1/2 mv^2

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I approached this problem in a conceptual manner. If we are to compare the energy from 0 to 60, it wouldn't matter if we go 0 to 30 or 30 to 60 since acceleration is not factored in. Thus it would be the same. However, the correct answer is 3 times as great. How is this possible?
 
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brake4country said:
I approached this problem in a conceptual manner. If we are to compare the energy from 0 to 60, it wouldn't matter if we go 0 to 30 or 30 to 60 since acceleration is not factored in. Thus it would be the same. However, the correct answer is 3 times as great. How is this possible?
You have to compare the energy required to bring the car from 0 km/h to 30 km/h, versus the energy required to take it from 30 km/h to 60 km/h.
 
So, that would be K = 1/2 m (30)^2 = 450 m; and then K = 1/2 m (30)^2 = 450 m. This makes no sense!
 
brake4country said:
So, that would be K = 1/2 m (30)^2 = 450 m; and then K = 1/2 m (30)^2 = 450 m. This makes no sense!
Of course, if you're calculating the same thing twice, you get the same number :wink:

I guess that you are putting in the second equation (60 - 30)2 for the velocity, but that is not correct. What you need to calculate is the difference in kinetic energy,
$$
K(v = 30\ \mathrm{km/h}) - K(v = 0\ \mathrm{km/h})
$$
compared to $$
K(v = 60\ \mathrm{km/h}) - K(v = 30\ \mathrm{km/h})
$$

To be clear, ##\Delta K \neq \frac{1}{2} m (\Delta v)^2##.
 
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