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The discussion revolves around the appropriate amount of study time and the relevance of specific physics topics for a high school student aspiring to become a theoretical physicist. Participants explore the balance between foundational knowledge and advanced study, as well as the challenges of self-directed learning in physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to study theoretical physics and questions whether studying 6-10 hours a day is sufficient, given their current high school level.
  • Another participant suggests that the listed chapters cover essential topics for a future physicist and emphasizes the importance of also studying mathematics alongside physics.
  • A different viewpoint raises concerns about the potential for burnout from studying long hours and suggests focusing on calculus-based physics series instead.
  • Some participants recommend starting with foundational topics like Newton's laws and practicing problems to build competence.
  • There is a suggestion that self-study is beneficial but may have limitations, and participants encourage focusing on mathematics skills, particularly algebra and trigonometry.
  • One participant highlights the broad nature of physics and the various specializations within the field, suggesting that an overview is a good starting point.
  • Resources such as Hyperphysics and physics societies are mentioned as useful references for further study.

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Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the effectiveness of the study approach and the sufficiency of study hours. There is no clear consensus on the best path forward or the adequacy of the current study materials.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the importance of context when discussing theoretical physics, indicating that the term can vary widely in meaning. Additionally, concerns about burnout and the balance of study time versus enjoyment are mentioned, highlighting the need for a sustainable study approach.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for high school students interested in pursuing physics, particularly those considering self-study and the transition to college-level physics programs.

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Hello everyone,

I'm 17 years old and I've recently quitted computer gaming and pursued a secondary interest which is physics in general (mostly Theoretical physics).

I'm studying 6-10 hours a day physics (if it is not a school day) and the particular book I'm using is including these chapters:

1. The physics world.
2. Phycisists view of the world.
3. Movement.
4. Newtons laws.
5. Energy.
6: A chapter about momentum and impulse laws.
7. Thermodynamics/thermophysics.
8. Climate and weather.
9. Electricity.
10. The modern physics progression.
11. Nuclear physics.
12. Relativity and the standardmodell.

My question is, is it worth studying these chapters? It's on a basic level as I'm currently in HS right now. Also is it enough to study 6-10 hours a day with physics? I really do want to become a theoretical phycisist. Or is it simply enough too little of study time?

I can rush through one chapter in maybe 12 - 20 hours, should I just buy a book about theoretical physics instead of working through this one or is it essential that I gather the superficial knowledge this one has to offer me (not very superficial as there's many complex questions)?

Also I do usually have trouble knowing the correct answer to a question so I look it through the internet to learn about it, is this a common problem for you? And how do I overcome that habit?

Sorry for bombarding this post with questions.

//DM
 
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Being a theoretical physicist is an awesome goal! I would say studying that much independently while still in high school is a great start and that the books you listed cover topics that you will need to master on your path towards your goal. Make sure to be studying lots of mathematics as well as physics!

You are 17 so I assume you will be starting your senior year of high school, you should start researching undergraduate universities with physics programs. I would recommend finding a school that emphasizes undergraduate research programs, as they are very helpful for getting into graduate school.

The main thing you need to realize is that the path to becoming a theoretical physicist is a long and challenging one. If you are completely knew to physics, you should definitely start off by studying Newtons laws and working out problems from a textbook. Once you master Calculus and Newtons laws you'll have completed the first step on your quest! Good luck!
 
Phycisists said:
Hello everyone,

I'm 17 years old and I've recently quitted computer gaming and pursued a secondary interest which is physics in general (mostly Theoretical physics).

I'm studying 6-10 hours a day physics (if it is not a school day) and the particular book I'm using is including these chapters:

1. The physics world.
2. Phycisists view of the world.
3. Movement.
4. Newtons laws.
5. Energy.
6: A chapter about momentum and impulse laws.
7. Thermodynamics/thermophysics.
8. Climate and weather.
9. Electricity.
10. The modern physics progression.
11. Nuclear physics.
12. Relativity and the standardmodell.

My question is, is it worth studying these chapters? It's on a basic level as I'm currently in HS right now. Also is it enough to study 6-10 hours a day with physics? I really do want to become a theoretical phycisist. Or is it simply enough too little of study time?

I can rush through one chapter in maybe 12 - 20 hours, should I just buy a book about theoretical physics instead of working through this one or is it essential that I gather the superficial knowledge this one has to offer me (not very superficial as there's many complex questions)?

Also I do usually have trouble knowing the correct answer to a question so I look it through the internet to learn about it, is this a common problem for you? And how do I overcome that habit?

Sorry for bombarding this post with questions.

//DM

What theoretical physics? The term itself means nothing without some context.

Studying 6-10 hours a day is a good way to burn yourself out. If you're up to speed on calculus you should look into the freshman calculus based physics series. Mechanics -> EM -> Modern.
 
Student100 said:
What theoretical physics? The term itself means nothing without some context.

Studying 6-10 hours a day is a good way to burn yourself out. If you're up to speed on calculus you should look into the freshman calculus based physics series. Mechanics -> EM -> Modern.

One is notburntout if it is done fore pleasure.
 
Hi Phycisists -

If you want to become a physicist, there is one sure path: study physics in college. Read Zapper's thread:

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=240792

At your age, focus on math - especially algebra and trigonometry. Practice problems until you are really comfortable and competent.

Self-study is fine, but it will only get you so far, IMO. Good luck!
 
Phycisists said:
I'm studying 6-10 hours a day physics (if it is not a school day) and the particular book I'm using is including these chapters:

1. The physics world.
2. Physicists' view of the world.
3. Movement.
4. Newtons laws.
5. Energy.
6: A chapter about momentum and impulse laws.
7. Thermodynamics/thermophysics.
8. Climate and weather.
9. Electricity.
10. The modern physics progression.
11. Nuclear physics.
12. Relativity and the standard modell.
It's good to start with an overview, since physics is a broad field covering numerous natural phenomena.

One can be a theoretical, experimental and/or applied physicist in areas as diverse as astronomy and astrophysics, plasma physics, nuclear physics, high energy particle physics, quantum mechanics, condensed matter physics, mechanics/dynamics, thermodynamics, hydrodynamics, optics (including lasers), electromagnetism, . . . .


Follow lisab's recommendation.

And browse PF.

Also, Hyperphysics (http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/hph.html) is a good reference, as are the two physics societies.

www.aip.org
www.aps.org
 

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