How much weight am I lifting when I pick up one end of a canoe?

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The discussion revolves around the weight a person would be lifting when picking up one end of a canoe, specifically a 70-pound canoe, and how factors such as mass distribution and lifting technique affect this weight. The context includes considerations for safety after heart surgery.

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  • One participant suggests that lifting one end of the canoe would mean lifting approximately 35 pounds, assuming symmetrical mass distribution, but acknowledges that it may be slightly more due to the lifting point being a couple of feet in from the end.
  • Another participant argues that the entire mass of the canoe is still being lifted, and the effective weight depends on the distance to the center of mass, particularly if the mass distribution is not uniform.
  • A third participant advises consulting the cardiologist for specific lifting recommendations, indicating that the doctor may not provide a precise weight limit.
  • One participant mentions that heart rate and intrathoracic pressure may be more relevant than the exact weight lifted, suggesting monitoring heart rate during lifting activities.
  • Another participant explains that lifting one corner of the canoe results in lifting with about half the force due to the mechanics of the center of mass, while noting complications from the canoe's shape.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effective weight being lifted, with some estimating around 35 pounds and others emphasizing that the entire weight of the canoe is involved. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the precise weight and safety considerations.

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Assumptions about mass distribution and lifting technique are not fully defined, and the impact of the canoe's shape on lifting mechanics is acknowledged but not resolved.

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I read the responses in "Lifting one end of a beam" and presume my situation would be similar but not quite the same. A beam would have uniform mass throughout but a canoe probably doesn't.

My question: If one end of a 70 pound (15 foot) canoe is sitting on the ground and I pick up the other end and set it on the canoe carrier on my truck, how much will I be lifting? Even though the canoe would probably not have a uniform mass throughout, the weight of one half of the canoe would equal the weight of the other half of the canoe, so my guess would be 35 pounds, probably slightly more since I would be lifting the canoe at a point a couple of feet in from the end.

My reason for asking is I had heart surgery about 3 months ago and I'm supposed to be careful how much I lift. My wife told the cardiologist the canoe weighed 70 pounds, which is true, but I won't be lifting the entire canoe. I'm trying to determine a more precise weight so I can tell the cardiologist.
 
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This is still a lever problem ... you are still lifting the entire mass of the canoe, it is just you are doing it through a lever where you have a mechanical advantage.
If the mass of the canoe is symmetrically distributed then you can just use the distance tot he center of mass to help you. It is is not, then it will depend on which end you lift.
 
I doubt the cardiologist will tell you that any particular weight is ok/not ok. Best go back and ask him when he thinks it's safe to resume normal lifting. Meanwhile get your wife to help?
 
I would suspect that it has more to do with heart rate and intrathoracic pressure. Get a Fitbit to monitor your heart rate, and make sure to not lift anything that requires you to grunt or hold your breath. Talk to your doctor and find out what is safe and stay well within those limits. Don't push it.

Your estimate sounds good. Assuming a symmetrical canoe and a slow lift then it should be 35 lb. However, if the lift is fast or if you have to drag it then it could be substantially greater.
 
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If you lift one corner and the other corner stays on the ground, you should be lifting with about half the force. This is because the height of the center of mass is rising about 1/2 as much as the height of the corner you are lifting is. It's somewhat more complicated if the bottom is curved so the pivot moves when you tilt it, but I doubt you need an exact answer here. When calculating mechanical advantage, the product of distance and force should stay constant to achieve the same work.
 

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