Automotive How to apply more torque to increase speed from steady-state

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To accelerate from a steady speed, increasing throttle is necessary, but it doesn't directly correlate to an increase in torque at a constant RPM. The torque curve typically represents maximum torque at full throttle, meaning that partial throttle results in lower torque values at any given RPM. This creates a scenario where higher RPM is needed for more torque, which is often perceived as a chicken-and-egg problem. Additionally, the gearbox may provide some buffering, allowing RPM to increase before the vehicle speed catches up. Ultimately, understanding that torque is maximized at full throttle clarifies the relationship between throttle position and acceleration.
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If I am traveling along at a steady 60 kph in top gear ... and say my tacho is showing 2000rpm,
then my "torque curve" says for this rpm the engine is outputting a specific torque - as I understand it, this is what is needed to zero out the forces from wind resistance and other frictional forces. Thus the net force will be zero and i maintain a steady speed.

Great ... now, how do i accelerate to increase speed? Put my foot further down on the accelerator ... but how does the car experience a higher torque at my starting 2000rpm? (assuming i stay in the same gear). Remember, at 2000rpm, the Torque curve tells me I have a specific torque value .. so in order for me to have more torque, i need more rpm ... but this means i need more speed. (this is a chicken/egg scenario)

I am assuming one of two explanations:

(a) the Torque curve actually represents the Max torque at Full throttle ... so anything less than full throttle means you get smaller torque (than the graphs we see) at any given rpm ; or

(b) the gearbox has some buffering/damping ... so when I put my foot down the revs go up even athought the speed of the wheels follow more slowly behind.

Of course, new cars have auto self-adjusting everything (valves, continuous transmission ratios, etc) ... but let's answer the question assuming I have a stick-shift jalopy from the 60's ... so which is it? (a) or (b) or (c) both or (d) something else?
 
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jjolla said:
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Great ... now, how do i accelerate to increase speed? Put my foot further down on the accelerator ...
Hint: Think "throttle" instead of "accelerator".
 
It's a. Power curves as seen from a dyno are typically at wide open throttle.
Part throttle will give some value less than this.
 
jjolla said:
(a) the Torque curve actually represents the Max torque at Full throttle ... so anything less than full throttle means you get smaller torque (than the graphs we see) at any given rpm ;

This is the correct explanation.
 
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