How to Attempt a Path Integral Problem with Green's Theorem?

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The problem involves evaluating a line integral using Green's Theorem over a region bounded by the curves y = 12x and y = 5x². The integral in question is defined as I = (5/12)x²y i + (y/12x) j, and the task is to find the contribution to the line integral along the curve y = 5x² in an anti-clockwise direction.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants question whether Green's Theorem is necessary for solving the problem, suggesting that a direct evaluation of the line integral might be possible.
  • There are inquiries about the original poster's attempts and reasoning, with requests for clarification on notation and parameterization of the curve.
  • Participants encourage the original poster to express their work and reasoning to facilitate better guidance.
  • Concerns are raised regarding the clarity of the notation used in defining the vector field I.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants actively engaging in clarifying the original poster's understanding and approach. There is no explicit consensus yet, but several suggestions for re-evaluating the problem setup and notation have been made.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions having worked on the problem for an extended period without success, indicating a potential lack of clarity in their understanding of path integrals and the application of Green's Theorem.

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Homework Statement


A region R is bounded by the curves y = 12.x and y=5.x^2
If I = (5/12).x^2 .y i + (y/12.x) j

find the contribution to the line integral
Integral I.dl = Integral (I(x) dx + I(y) dy)

taken in the anti clockwise direction with respect to the region R along the curve y = 5.x^2 only.

ANSWER: 52.376

Homework Equations



Green's Theorem.

The Attempt at a Solution


I been working on this problem for almost a day can someone please tell me the right way to attempt this problem
 
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Are you required to use Green's theorem to solve this? Because if you don't you can evaluate the line integral directly without having to use the closed curve line integral minus the line integral constribution along the straight line.
 
If you have "been working on this problem for almost a day", why don't you show us what you have done in that day? This looks like a pretty basic path-integral problem.

Go back to the original definition of line integral:

Write x and y in terms of a single parameter. Since here the curve is defined by a function of y, y= 5x2, you can use x itself as the parameter. With y= 5x2, what is dy in terms of dx? What is I(x,y) in terms of x only?

By the way, your notation is confusing. I(x,y) is a function of two variables. I(x) and I(y) make no sense. Do you mean the x component and y component if I(x,y)?
Also, is "y/12.x" supposed to be "y/(12x)" or "(y/12)x"?
 
HallsofIvy said:
If you have "been working on this problem for almost a day", why don't you show us what you have done in that day? This looks like a pretty basic path-integral problem.

Go back to the original definition of line integral:

Write x and y in terms of a single parameter. Since here the curve is defined by a function of y, y= 5x2, you can use x itself as the parameter. With y= 5x2, what is dy in terms of dx? What is I(x,y) in terms of x only?

By the way, your notation is confusing. I(x,y) is a function of two variables. I(x) and I(y) make no sense. Do you mean the x component and y component if I(x,y)?
Also, is "y/12.x" supposed to be "y/(12x)" or "(y/12)x"?

I have attached original file, my working outs are all on paper I don't have a scanner or else i would have attached them as well.
 

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HallsofIvy said:
If you have "been working on this problem for almost a day", why don't you show us what you have done in that day? This looks like a pretty basic path-integral problem.

Go back to the original definition of line integral:

Write x and y in terms of a single parameter. Since here the curve is defined by a function of y, y= 5x2, you can use x itself as the parameter. With y= 5x2, what is dy in terms of dx? What is I(x,y) in terms of x only?

By the way, your notation is confusing. I(x,y) is a function of two variables. I(x) and I(y) make no sense. Do you mean the x component and y component if I(x,y)?
Also, is "y/12.x" supposed to be "y/(12x)" or "(y/12)x"?

i am also having problem to do path integrate which is similar problem. Could you please show me how to attempt the question ! thanks
 

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