How to Construct an Orthonormal Basis for a 2D Subspace in Linear Algebra?

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The discussion revolves around constructing an orthonormal basis for a 2D subspace in linear algebra, specifically focusing on the transformation of vectors through a linear map defined by an invertible matrix. Participants explore methods for achieving orthonormality from a given set of vectors that are not necessarily orthogonal.

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  • Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes using QR decomposition on the matrix formed by the images of the spanning vectors under the linear map to obtain an orthonormal basis for the space W.
  • Another participant questions the definition of W, suggesting it is the image of V under the map A, and notes that W is two-dimensional if the transformed vectors are linearly independent.
  • Some participants suggest using the Gram-Schmidt process to find an orthonormal basis if W is indeed two-dimensional.
  • A later reply emphasizes the importance of having a consistent inner product defined within the space when applying the Gram-Schmidt process.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need to define W as the image of V under the linear map A. However, there is no consensus on the best method to construct the orthonormal basis, with different approaches being suggested.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the linear independence of the transformed vectors A e_1 and A e_2, which affects the dimensionality of W and the applicability of the proposed methods.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in linear algebra, particularly those exploring concepts of orthonormal bases, linear transformations, and the Gram-Schmidt process.

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I have two n-vectors e_1, e_2 which span a 2D subspace of R^n:
<br /> V = span\{e_1,e_2\}<br />
The vectors e_1,e_2 are not necessarily orthogonal (but they are not parallel so we know its a 2D and not a 1D subspace). Now I also have a linear map:
<br /> f: V \rightarrow W \\<br /> f(v) = A v<br />
where A is a given n \times n invertible matrix.

My question is: how would I construct an orthonormal basis for the space W?

My thinking is to perform a QR decomposition on the n \times 2 matrix
<br /> \left(<br /> \begin{array}{cc}<br /> A e_1 &amp; A e_2<br /> \end{array}<br /> \right)<br />
and then the columns of Q will be an orthonormal basis for W. Is this a correct solution? I'm not entirely sure since e_1,e_2 are not orthonormal.
 
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How do you define ##W##? Is ##W## the image of ##V## under the map ##A## (as a linear operator in ##R^n##)? In this case ##W## is two dimensional if ##A e_1## and ##A e_2## are linearly independent, and is one dimensional otherwise.

In the case where ##W## is two dimensional, you know ##A e_1## and ##A e_2## form a basis. Use the Gram-Schmidt process to find orthonormal basis.
 
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Lucas SV said:
How do you define ##W##? Is ##W## the image of ##V## under the map ##A## (as a linear operator in ##R^n##)? In this case ##W## is two dimensional if ##A e_1## and ##A e_2## are linearly independent, and is one dimensional otherwise.

In the case where ##W## is two dimensional, you know ##A e_1## and ##A e_2## form a basis. Use the Gram-Schmidt process to find orthonormal basis.
Yes, we can think of W as the image of V under the map A
 

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