How to determine direction of forces?

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The discussion focuses on determining the direction of forces in a structural analysis problem involving points B and D. The user initially misinterprets the position vector DB as a force, leading to confusion about the equilibrium of the system. The correct interpretation is that DB represents the position vector from point D to point B, calculated as DB = (480, -510, 320) mm. The key takeaway is that understanding the line of action (LOA) of the force is crucial for accurate force direction determination.

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I am consistently getting this wrong. To me, in the picture below, it would make sense that the structure would be pulling downward, and the cable BD would be pulling upward - thus the system is in equilibrium.

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However, the solution to this problem show the force being applied downward onto the structure:

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What is the trick?
 
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DB is not a force. It is measured in mm, so it must be the position vector of point B w.r.t. point D.

B = (480, 0, 600) mm
D = (0, 510, 280) mm

DB = (480, -510, 320) mm
 
I was using the sense of the line to determine the position vector, as you mentioned. I know that DB is not a vector, but if you normalize DB and then multiply the resulting vector by the magnitude of the F along that cable then you effectively have deduced the components of the force.

My problem is that, knowing the force should be from B -> D, I took D-B and got the opposite of what you have shown: DB = (-480, 510, -320).

Given two points, the way you subtract (D-B or B-D) does not matter for the magnitude of the line, but to get an accurate sense of the line you cannot do this action arbitrarily - as I have seen.

I see now though, that the definition of the line is nothing more than determining the LOA of the associated force.
 

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