How to differentiare/integrate e^t and the like .

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The discussion revolves around the differentiation and integration of exponential functions, particularly in the context of integrating vector functions. Participants explore methods for integrating expressions like t*e^t, e^(t^2), and e^(-2t), as well as the application of integration techniques such as the chain rule and integration by parts.

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  • One participant asks how to integrate t*e^t and expresses confusion about handling multiplicative factors in integration.
  • Another participant suggests using the chain rule for integrating functions of the form f(t)e^t, providing two approaches for integration.
  • A claim is made that there is no elementary function for the integral of e^(t^2), but a special function can be defined for it, though it is noted that this integral is not commonly encountered.
  • It is mentioned that the integral of e^(-t^2) is significant and relates to the error function, erf(x).
  • Further clarification is requested on the use of the chain rule, with an example involving t^2*e^t introduced for discussion.
  • Integration by parts is proposed as a method for integrating t^2*e^t, with a detailed breakdown of the steps involved in the integration process.
  • A participant humorously corrects a previous statement about integration by parts, stating it is the product rule rewritten for integrals.

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Participants present various methods for integration, with some agreeing on the use of integration by parts while others focus on the chain rule. There is no consensus on the best approach for specific integrals, and the discussion remains open-ended regarding the treatment of e^(t^2).

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Some assumptions about the applicability of integration techniques may not be explicitly stated, and the discussion does not resolve the complexities surrounding the integral of e^(t^2) or the definitions of special functions.

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How to differentiare/integrate e^t and the like...

I'm taking linear algebra this semester and completely have forgotten how to integrate and differentiate e functions.

This is within the context of trying to learn how to integrate vector functions...

So how would you integrate t*e^t ? what do you do when there is a multiplicative factor?

How about if it were e^t2? or alternatively e^-2t??

Thanks for the help!:redface:
 
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Use the chain rule to integrate [itex]f(t)e^t[/itex]. You can choose either [itex]u = f(t), dv = e^t dt[/itex] or [itex]u = e^t, dv = f(t) dt[/itex]. With the former approach, [itex]\int f(t)e^t = f(t)e^t - \int f^\prime(t) e^t dt[/itex], and the latter, [itex]\int f(t)e^t = F(t)e^t - \int F(t) e^t dt[/itex]. Use whichever approach simplifies the result.

There is no elementary function [itex]f(t)[/itex] such that [itex]f(t) = \int e^{t^2} dt[/itex]. You can always define a special function that satisfies this equation. The reason no one has done so is because this integral does not come up very often.

On the other hand, [itex]\int e^{-t^2} dt[/itex] comes up all the time. A special function has been defined based on this integral, the error function [itex]\text{erf}(x)[/itex].
 
DH, thanks a lot for your reply.

Can you please explain further why you use the chain rule?

Also, just to use an example - let's say you have to integrate t^2*e^t? How would you do that?
 
You use integration by parts, which is the chain rule rewritten for integrals.

Choose [itex]u = t^2, dv = e^t dt[/itex]. Then

[tex]\int t^2 e^t dt = t^2 e^t - 2\int t e^t dt[/tex]

Use integration by parts again on the integral on the right hand side

[tex]\int t e^t dt = t e^t - \int e^t dt = (t-1)e^t[/tex]

Now apply this result to the first result,

[tex]\int t^2 e^t dt = t^2 e^t - 2(t-1)e^t = (t^2-2t+2)e^t[/tex]

Verify by differentiating:

[tex]\frac d {dt}\left((t^2-2t+2)e^t\right) = (2t-2)e^t + (t^2-2t+2)e^t = t^2e^t[/tex]
 
My bad! Integration by parts is the product rule rewritten for integrals.
 

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